Native Completed [NASTe] North American Small Teams Seasonal Ladder [Season 2]

[Outlawed]

Actually, at first you told me it sounded pretty good. Then Saturday night, you told me the Ra team was pretty much non-existent. I want the challenge canceled not because you didn't show once, but because I'm worried that you won't be able to show ever.

Erm, Noms.
You messaged me on steam and you said, is that No a final or something along those lines, and I was like, I said No didn't I?
You then went along the lines of something to do with having hope and what not.

Its bs that we get a warning after we specifically declined the challenge =s

edit: I never specifically confirmed at any one incident for this scrim. In fact I was very careful not to confirm and said I'd get back to Nom, WHICH I DID, and then declined.

 

[MrNomNom]

We can't make it.
In fact, I don't think we have a working team for Naste anymore.

Good enough reason to cancel a challenge, if you ask me.

 

[Outlawed]

Noms.

Notice the grammar present in the past quote.

1. A given: "We can't make it"
2. A speculation: "I don't think we have a working team for Naste anymore."

A clear difference in statement and intended purpose -___-

Furthermore, I have no problem with canceling the challenge. Even though, we could reschedule, which hasn't been attempted by both sides lol. I was taken by surprise by this whole warning thing and completely forgot that.

My main issue is with the warn =s
We didn't even reschedule once.

EDIT:
Unrelated, BkS vs Wappaw (map 1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnJO_V0A0Cg

 

[POM_Zero]

Noms.

Notice the grammar present in the past quote.

1. A given: "We can't make it"
2. A speculation: "I don't think we have a working team for Naste anymore."

A clear difference in statement and intended purpose -___-

Furthermore, I have no problem with canceling the challenge. Even though, we could reschedule, which hasn't been attempted by both sides lol. I was taken by surprise by this whole warning thing and completely forgot that.

My main issue is with the warn =s
We didn't even reschedule once.

EDIT:
Unrelated, BkS vs Wappaw (map 1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnJO_V0A0Cg

I am with you on this one, unless nomnom can provide proof that you accepted like a ss or something. The warning was unfair.

 

[MrNomNom]

Eh, don't really care about the warning. Sala did say he'd confirm if beer could make it, and beer could make it. But what evs.

Also, do you think Ra team is in a functional form? I canceled because you didn't.

 

[Outlawed]

We are trying to do this merger thing at this point, so things have been sort of hectic around, but we are about to make changes to the team.
Also, Beer is the captain now. Too busy with life to keep up with who can and who can't make it =p

 

[Mr.X]

Hell, they should be warned simply for not planning this in PMs instead of steam.

 

[findecanno]

We are trying to do this merger thing at this point, so things have been sort of hectic around, but we are about to make changes to the team.
Also, Beer is the captain now. Too busy with life to keep up with who can and who can't make it =p

Eh, don't really care about the warning. Sala did say he'd confirm if beer could make it, and beer could make it. But what evs.

Also, do you think Ra team is in a functional form? I canceled because you didn't.

I made it. No other roster members made it or even knew about it. And yes, I guess I am captain now.

 

[Outlawed]

Hell, they should be warned simply for not planning this in PMs instead of steam.

Are you ****ing serious right now?
It WAS done through PM's. Both the initial offer and the rejection.

 

[MrNomNom]

Hell, they should be warned simply for not planning this in PMs instead of steam.

Hell, reread the transaction, you trigger happy codfish. 

 

[Mr.X]

You messaged me on steam

That doesn't sound like a PM...

 

[MrNomNom]

You messaged me on steam

That doesn't sound like a PM...

You messaged me on steam and you said, is that No a final or something along those lines, and I was like, I said No didn't I?

He said no via PM, challenge and dates were offered via PM, I was checking to see what was up.

 

[Outlawed]

You messaged me on steam

That doesn't sound like a PM...

Well X, if you had the comprehension skills of a grade 5 student and was able to collectively read and infer meaning from a simple paragraph, then you shouldn't have missed this:

Erm, Noms.
You messaged me on steam and you said, is that No a final or something along those lines, and I was like, I said No didn't I?

Clearly, you can see that he messaged me on steam asking me about a previous 'No' and whether its final or not.
I then reply and say, I said No didn't I?

Now, I don't know about you, but its pretty clear that there were some previous interchange elsewhere.
Also, Noms has stated that he wants the challenge canceled not because of a confusion of scrim time but because he feels we can't continue the tournament. Which is now false. We've added 2 other active members to the team. Talk to Beer for scheduling time.

But then again, you never did, don't and never will give any of 'us' any benefit of the doubt.

 

[Orion]

Let's check the speculation at the door, eh? I've got PMs from Nom and Sala regarding this match. I issued a warning because of Ra's implicit confirmation. Bringing half of your team at a scheduled time implies your confirmation. You cannot get away with tentatively agreeing to a time and waiting until that time comes to see if it will work.

Now hold your horses, Sala, because I know you won't like that.

The challenge has not been cancelled because the new Ra captain is being proactive to improve attendance for his team (substitutions have already been made & confirmed). I'm considering waiving the penalty because of Sala's mature decision to reassign leadership of the team.

Now, before anyone gets too fussy about the end of the season being only 6 days away, here's how I'm going to handle it:

All active challenges issued before the deadline are still valid and will be played before the tournament begins. That means a challenge issued on the 15th will be played before the final tournament begins. The two-week activity limit is in effect for these last-minute challenges, so be aware that you cannot drag out the final weeks of the ladder. I will cut you off if you fail to conclude your challenge.

Hopefully this gives everyone a bit of breathing room and flexibility in the final days of the ladder.

 

[Outlawed]

Marnid, when one says we cannot make it in a PM regarding the time, I don't know how more direct and more explicit one can get.
Lol, what did you expect me to say? I told Noms initially that we should be able to make but that I'd get back to him, and I did, with a negative.

 

[orangeknite1]

So will that final elimination bracket start on the 16th?

 

[Mok the International]

So will that final elimination bracket start on the 16th?

Erhmm...

I thought that's when no other team could sign-up.

 

[orangeknite1]

So will that final elimination bracket start on the 16th?

Erhmm...

I thought that's when no other team could sign-up.

It says at the 16th its the final month before the Elimination bracket. So one month past December 16th is January 16th.

 

[Orion]

OKnight's right. The final tournament is scheduled to start on January 16th. It will be delayed if necessary by active challenges that could influence the top 4 teams.

Marnid, when one says we cannot make it in a PM regarding the time, I don't know how more direct and more explicit one can get.
Lol, what did you expect me to say? I told Noms initially that we should be able to make but that I'd get back to him, and I did, with a negative.

I just re-checked the PMs, and it seems I mixed up dates. I thought the PM you sent was on the day of the challenge, at the last minute before it started. My mistake. Removing the warning.

Also updating LES' roster with a substitution.

 

[Mok the International]

OKnight's right. The final tournament is scheduled to start on January 16th. It will be delayed if necessary by active challenges that could influence the top 4 teams.

Marnid, when one says we cannot make it in a PM regarding the time, I don't know how more direct and more explicit one can get.
Lol, what did you expect me to say? I told Noms initially that we should be able to make but that I'd get back to him, and I did, with a negative.

I just re-checked the PMs, and it seems I mixed up dates. I thought the PM you sent was on the day of the challenge, at the last minute before it started. My mistake. Removing the warning.

Also updating LES' roster with a substitution.

Finally

Thanks.