Native Completed [NASTe] North American Small Teams Seasonal Ladder [Season 2]

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Beer said Ra's willing to rematch if CRAP is. I suggest you guys schedule it. Lusty will be able to play in the new match.  :wink:
 
Orion 说:
Beer said Ra's willing to rematch if CRAP is. I suggest you guys schedule it. Lusty will be able to play in the new match.  :wink:
And spaniard too, I'm guessing, unless we do it today. Did that PM reach you?

Regardless, CRAP is more than willing to rematch. Ra manners were excellent and they were a tough and good opponent. Looking forward to another one.
 
Catholic 说:
Orion 说:
Beer said Ra's willing to rematch if CRAP is. I suggest you guys schedule it. Lusty will be able to play in the new match.  :wink:
And spaniard too, I'm guessing, unless we do it today. Did that PM reach you?

Regardless, CRAP is more than willing to rematch. Ra manners were excellent and they were a tough and good opponent. Looking forward to another one.
Excellent, I look forward to it.

Quick question for the tournament admins. Is it allowed to set up matches through steam, or does it have to be done through PMs so that a tournament admin can get a copy?
 
Confirmed Scores by both Teams for BkS vs. LES:

1st Map

Plains
BkS(Sarannid) 5
LES (Vaegirs) 3

2nd Map

Village
BkS(Nords) 5
LES(Rhodoks) 2


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findecanno 说:
Catholic 说:
Orion 说:
Beer said Ra's willing to rematch if CRAP is. I suggest you guys schedule it. Lusty will be able to play in the new match.  :wink:
And spaniard too, I'm guessing, unless we do it today. Did that PM reach you?

Regardless, CRAP is more than willing to rematch. Ra manners were excellent and they were a tough and good opponent. Looking forward to another one.
Excellent, I look forward to it.

Quick question for the tournament admins. Is it allowed to set up matches through steam, or does it have to be done through PMs so that a tournament admin can get a copy?

You can schedule through Steam as long as you send your finalized match times to a ladder admin, along with any questions/concerns/disputes. Admins have to know what's going down, and when.

For future reference, any ladder admins that get match results sent to them should either forward them to me or post them in this thread. Forwards are arguably better because they're easier to keep track of, but do whatever works.

Catholic 说:
And spaniard too, I'm guessing, unless we do it today. Did that PM reach you?

Yes, I got it. I'll make the addition in a few minutes I've made the addition, now I'll update the ladder with the first concluded challenge.

Here's a brief explanation of how this works with a bunch of unranked teams.

Because we're all unranked (and essentially tied), winners of matches between two unranked teams will be raised in rank to the next available rank, regardless of whether or not they attacked or defended. For example, LES challenged BkS and fought them on September 23rd. BkS won, but because both teams are unranked BkS will advance in rank though they were defending. This is to fill out the ladder with ranks early on, and prevent unnecessary time spent unranked on the ladder.

This is just meta-stuff and isn't of any serious consequence. It's just for short-term organizational purposes.
 
captain lust 说:
I know it's been said that matches are 6v6 but does it say it anywhere in the rules?

Also, add me to CRAP. I just can't say no to a 14 year old...
Does it count from the time the person post to sub or the time the admin sees the post ?
 
Z3ro 说:
captain lust 说:
I know it's been said that matches are 6v6 but does it say it anywhere in the rules?

Also, add me to CRAP. I just can't say no to a 14 year old...
Does it count from the time the person post to sub or the time the admin sees the post ?
I'm not clear on this either. Marnid seems to be indicating that it's from the time the admin posts after seeing the post (or recieving the PM). Although personally, I think it should be from the time the "substitution" post is made (or PM sent) but with the clause that an admin must recognise the post.
 
captain lust 说:
Z3ro 说:
captain lust 说:
I know it's been said that matches are 6v6 but does it say it anywhere in the rules?

Also, add me to CRAP. I just can't say no to a 14 year old...
Does it count from the time the person post to sub or the time the admin sees the post ?
I'm not clear on this either. Marnid seems to be indicating that it's from the time the admin posts after seeing the post (or recieving the PM). Although personally, I think it should be from the time the "substitution" post is made (or PM sent) but with the clause that an admin must recognise the post.
Same here I will talk to him as soon as possible about this and get a final verdict on it.
 
captain lust 说:
Z3ro 说:
captain lust 说:
I know it's been said that matches are 6v6 but does it say it anywhere in the rules?

Also, add me to CRAP. I just can't say no to a 14 year old...
Does it count from the time the person post to sub or the time the admin sees the post ?
I'm not clear on this either. Marnid seems to be indicating that it's from the time the admin posts after seeing the post (or recieving the PM). Although personally, I think it should be from the time the "substitution" post is made (or PM sent) but with the clause that an admin must recognise the post.

Agreed.
 
captain lust 说:
I think it should be from the time the "substitution" post is made (or PM sent) but with the clause that an admin must recognise the post.

Probably for the best, at least for the first 3 months of the season when rosters are open to substitutions. This shifts responsibility onto team captains, though, which is acceptable to a point. I'll allow teams to consider their substitutions complete as as soon as I've been sent notification. That still allows me to check the time I was notified against any claims of rule violations.

The two substitutions so far will still have the posted time constraints, to avoid confusion. The waiting period should be nearly over for Spaniard, and it's already over for lust.

In the final month of the ladder, though, all substitutions will have to be approved. This is in the rules. They are not considered valid substitutions until a ladder admin has responded with verification and added them to the team personally.

I'd also like all ladder admins to forward me any notifications of substitutions, match screenshots, etc. so I can keep accurate records. Dispute resolution does not need to be forwarded to me, though I'd like it if you did.

[Edit]

I also totally forgot to write in the match size. So far I don't think it's been an issue, but it's being written in now.

II. Team Size & Player Substitutions
Teams are allowed to field 6 players in a match. Teams may only substitute players during matches between maps or with consent from the opposing team's captain or if a player unexpectedly loses connection/crashes and is unable to rejoin promptly. Rounds are generally not discarded if only a single player loses connection, though multiple drops may warrant discarding of the round. Dead players that drop cannot be used to discard a round.

If you'll notice, I added a bit about discarding rounds. It's my opinion that if a team unexpectedly loses a single player, the outcome of the round will not change drastically. 5v6 is acceptable if it must be done. If multiple players drop, then the difference is considered significant and the round may be discarded until substitutes are found or the dropped players return. This came to my attention during the LES vs. BkS match last night as an LES player unexpectedly dropped.

It is implied that you will find a substitute for your missing player as soon as possible. 5v6s are only acceptable if they are unavoidable for the round. You cannot play an entire match 5v6.
 
LES is looking for a team to scrim at approximately 8:00-8:30 CST tonight. We're available to play slightly later, but I'd like to give our early risers some sleep. We'll have six, so bring your boys and try as hard as you can.

Contact us here with alternate times or PM Commissar/Hasek to make further arrangements.
 
Commisar, LES is going to end up with a 0-2 by the end of this night, i swear :grin:
 
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