Surely the fact that somewhere is good doesn't make it exempt from being a glitch. Infact if all the glitches were useless then glitching wouldn't be a problem at all. It would just be a case of fixing the bugs.findecanno 说:
captain lust 说:
MadocComadrin 说:
I'm always up for testing out new maps. There's nothing in the rules that says new maps cannot be added to the pool. Again, ladder admin consensus. There are a few custom maps that are fun to play in a pub but aren't worth scrimming on.
MrNomNom 说:
Orion 说:The problems with running custom map packs (in my eyes) are logistics, verification, and interpretation of glitches.
Every server would need to have these maps in their rotation, and some server owners are more willing to install the maps than others. Some server owners are also much more easily contacted than others. Those server owners that are particularly difficult to reach might be running the best suited server for two teams. This creates another cause for conflict between teams.
It could also be difficult to tell which version of the map you're on. You would need to deliberately test specific areas on each map to determine if it was lust's "fixed" version or the native version. I can easily see disputes being raised about whether or not the correct version of a map was used, and I can also imagine the ill will I'd quickly get from the community by saying "screenshots or gtfo."
Then there's the interpretation of what actually is and isn't broken. Lust already brought up one of the biggest issues here: the linens hanging around Village. I'm of the opinion that the linens over the cushions at the wall (near the portcullis tower) are legitimate spots, while the other linens around the map are exceptionally difficult to reach and thus more likely glitches. The broken walls around Ruins are another thing I consider not to be glitches, just tricky jumps, and they don't really convey much of an advantage considering there is no cover from ranged troops on top of them. For Nord Town, it's my opinion that the carts need to both be blocked off or both remain open, as they both provide entrance to areas that otherwise have only one entrance. Removing access to one makes that spawn area arbitrarily more advantageous.
MrNomNom 说:
Aye, the ones int he ENL pack already have a nice bit of feedback as well. Lust could give you a summary them (or you can visit the thread in the ENL subforum).
And a multitude of poorly scripted web crawlers died! (And all of the posts under mine become side-information until someone posts a matching closing parenthesis.You forgot a closing parentheses.
Well, two now.
Banned
captain lust 说:I know you guys have different ideas and conventions about glitches. Fair enough if you think that's not a glitch and I don't mind the game being played differently but it's quite clearly not intentional.Mr.X 说:
If you're familiar with mapping, you can see how objects and invisible barriers are placed and it's obvious what is intentional and what isn't. Most of the time there are clear indicators (for example the small ladder which goes from the catwalks to the adjacent roof, at lower spawn).
Evidence:
Here you can see where the devs placed an invisible wall which, had the roof been intended to be accessible, would not exist.
That alone is evidence enough that the roof wasn't intended for use, though there are lots of other indicators which are very clear, if you look at the map in edit mode.
I made the glitch free maps by sticking to the implicit guidelines of the developers in almost all cases (there are one or two exceptions, which are potential uncertainties).
