Native Completed [NASTe] North American Small Teams Seasonal Ladder [Season 2]

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Confirmed 8:30 EST on Saturday...would be nice if an admin was online at the time
 
blak 说:
Confirmed 8:30 EST on Saturday...would be nice if an admin was online at the time

Confirmed, added to 2nd post. CRAP's newest player will be eligible to play by that time.

Outlawed 说:
Please replace 5arge with Jesse on the Ra-ster.
Thanks.

wK can't make the weekend, so we are still negotiating.

Substitutions definitely should be sent by PM, not posted here. I'm making this one, but I won't make any others from posts in this thread.
 
All match times are up to date to my knowledge.

I heard something about wK vs. Ra at 8:30 PST, Tuesday, October 25th, but I need an official time in a PM, please. Something tells me that won't be the finalized time because that's 11:30 EST, and while I'd scrim at that time on a week night I know most people won't.
 
Complete mess.

A ridiculous precedent has been set that makes it impossible to play matches. Teams and players need to be responsible for their own connections. End of.

Doesn't matter that we're a lovely everyone knows everyone who ****s everyone's sister community - this is completely unworkable.
 
  Here's how our match went, at 8:30 EST, CRAP vs. GOOD.

  Started off not too bad (although blak stated that Juvenile's ping was spiking from the beginning) and roughly as we were 4-0, us. Blak says Juvenile's ping is spiking and we need to switch servers. I offer we drop one and juv for a 5v5, but Zero comes in and says we switch servers or reschedule. So we go on balion war room, Juv's ping is still ridiculously high, and suddenly... he chimes in that he's in the middle of a thunderstorm. So blak says we can just play it 5v5, like I said earlier, and switches it to the map and factions we were playing on. It was already established that the East coast server was not the problem, so we asked why can't we play on beast coast. Finally, we agree to play 5v5 on balion war room, then zero chimes in and says it's over and we need to reschedule. We explicitly agreed to playing 5v5 war room in the end, and he ended it.

  First of all, why is one player's ping spiking grounds for completely rescheduling? Especially when it's clear that it is the player's fault and not the server's? Why did Zero cancel the damn match when everyone was fine(to my understanding) of playing 5v5 on balion war room, even though it made no sense because the east coast server was NOT an issue? By that logic someone could **** with their internet cable, get crazy ping and the whole match would be rescheduled.

  I believe the rule needs to seriously be changed. If it's a server-side problem, then switch servers or reschedule. If it is not a server-side problem and people are lagging then it is their fault and should not be grounds for a reschedule. And when both teams agree to play the match, I do not understand why an admin should cancel the match for no apparent reason whatsoever and demand a reschedule.

  Making it worse is that it started at 8:30 which is 1:30 AM for our two brits and we didn't even play, but that's expected in a NA tournament and is not what I'm angry about.

edit: To be clear, I'm not blaming GOOD. I got pissed at them but that was me venting and my opinion of them has not changed. I am angry at the ridiculous rule that stops a match from playing because of one player's ping and Zero's ruling.

It is also a problem that other teams are getting ahead and playing matches while this challenge with GOOD has been going on for two weeks and will go on for more, stopping any sort of advancement for either of our teams.
 
blak 说:
So more server issues, 3 of our players were spiking 40+ ping higher than normal and only 1 of them was a client-side issue...we then moved to the War Room where 3 of CRAP's players had 100+ ping...Zero then decided to cancel the match. Rules are making it virtually impossible for both teams to play with reasonable ping. That is all I will say.
Who were those three, if I may? You and one other person had stable 10-40 ping. Paxman had a grand total of 20 ping more than the east coast server and Juv had the obvious spiking issue. Was flaming's ping 40 higher than normal? I didn't check.
 
Catholic 说:
blak 说:
So more server issues, 3 of our players were spiking 40+ ping higher than normal and only 1 of them was a client-side issue...we then moved to the War Room where 3 of CRAP's players had 100+ ping...Zero then decided to cancel the match. Rules are making it virtually impossible for both teams to play with reasonable ping. That is all I will say.
Who were those three, if I may? You and one other person had stable 10-40 ping. Paxman had a grand total of 20 ping more than the east coast server and Juv had the obvious spiking issue. Was flaming's ping 40 higher than normal? I didn't check.

Flaming was spiking.
 
Monkey's ping was spiking from 50 to 150...pax was 40-50 more than normal and obviously Juv was spiking to 250 but it was a client-side issue. I removed the previous post at request of an admin....this is all I will say on the matter.
 
blak 说:
Monkey's ping was spiking from 50 to 150...pax was 40-50 more than normal and obviously Juv was spiking to 250 but it was a client-side issue. I removed the previous post at request of an admin....this is all I will say on the matter.
I reiterate that I checked paxman's ping and he had 20 ping more on beast coast than balion war room. He had 85 on the beast coast and 60 on balion war room. Unless I checked at a bad time, that was it. I saw the monkey ping spike and juv had a client side issue.

Sorry if it feels like I'm getting on your tails, but I want to make everything clear before something stupid happens.
 
Monkeys ping was pretty stable, After GOOD said they had more than one spiking, I sat and watched the pings. Only juvs spiked. And that was over 2minutes. after 2 mins i stopped staring at stable pings and moved onto making a cup of tea!

But, its still load of bull CRAP! we agreed to play. we should of played, simple as.
 
Ok, here's the deal.

Tournament admin said something, therefore it's final.
If you want to discuss the rules, PM an admin and we'll all talk about it.
 
So what's the point of this thread? Can't schedule on here, can't change roster on here, and now you can't talk about the rules or admins on here either.
 
Mr.X 说:
Ok, here's the deal.

Tournament admin said something, therefore it's final.
If you want to discuss the rules, PM an admin and we'll all talk about it.
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Mr.X 说:
Ok, here's the deal.

Tournament admin said something, therefore it's final.
If you want to discuss the rules, PM an admin and we'll all talk about it.

Kind of a cop out eh?
 
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