Native Completed [NASTe] North American Small Teams Seasonal Ladder [Season 2 Finals]

Season 3 Duel Ladder Format (ALL FIGHTS ARE 1v1)

  • Singles (Two players, one set, best of 13)

    选票: 20 39.2%
  • Doubles (Four players, two sets, best of 13, winners duel for tiebreaker)

    选票: 12 23.5%
  • Team (3 player teams, round-robin format, highest scoring team wins)

    选票: 19 37.3%

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insertirlcompensatingnamehere 说:
How can a well explained situation be confusing?

The confusion probably comes from Marnid posting this in the NASTe thread for some reason. Fwiw, I think this is a separate thing.
 
Fehnor 说:
Is this part of NASTe? Or another tournament you want to do?

I am confused.

I would run it concurrently with NASTe season 3, if I run a battle ladder again. If I do, there's going to be a more regular activity requirement.
 
Orion 说:
Fehnor 说:
Is this part of NASTe? Or another tournament you want to do?

I am confused.

I would run it concurrently with NASTe season 3, if I run a battle ladder again. If I do, there's going to be a more regular activity requirement.

I mean, lets be honest. When people scrim nowadays, it's usually not set-up a week or something in advance. Maybe a few days. And people generally like to have their whole clan be able to play, not just the 9 that happen to have their names written online. And they also often like playing with slightly modified rules. Scrims still occur, they just don't tag it "naste" because they really don't care for the league.
 
We'll see how it turns out. Hell, I may just run a doubles/team ladder and a singles ladder instead of the battle ladder. Dueling fits the ladder system better for our smaller community. If there is genuine interest in maintaining the battle ladder, I'll just run the most popular dueling format alongside battle.

Also, team Alcoholic Imps has regrettably resigned (the reason given was scheduling difficulties).
 
Mr.X 说:
I mean, lets be honest. When people scrim nowadays, it's usually not set-up a week or something in advance. Maybe a few days. And people generally like to have their whole clan be able to play, not just the 9 that happen to have their names written online. And they also often like playing with slightly modified rules. Scrims still occur, they just don't tag it "naste" because they really don't care for the league.

Imo, it has less to do with the ruleset, and more to do with the fact that people just generally suck at scheduling **** in this game.  Whether it's due to the presence of Euros, 13 year old clanmates who have early bedtimes or players with delusions of their RL popularity, many of the teams on the ladder seem to have problems coordinating 6 guys into getting online at the same time.  Wtf?
 
John7 说:
Just blame Peers fat for all our problems

Thats the easiest solution

He went to a weight loss camp for a while, didn't you hear?

So im blaming John's laziness.
 
Just do a tournament similar to Kitten's old ones, imo. One match a week. Everyone plays everyone once. Playoffs for top 4 teams at the end.
 
Voted 1, since it's simple.

Option 2 and 3 aren't appealing in their current format. They're pretty much the exact same thing as dueling solo -- you simply belong to some "team". How can I explain this... Essentially, it wouldn't matter if the team members' duels were played at a completely different times, etc. It's just a tally of each individual's win.

If you're up for a challenge, I'd vote running teams of three, using the format of my -- currently defunct? [size=6pt](am I worse than John at running tournaments?)[/size] -- tournament, i.e., a team fencing format. The reason I would suggest said format is the same reason that team fencing uses said format. It's intense and actually /is/ a team effort -- rather than a compilation of individual efforts.

I was actually thinking of making a mod to help facilitate running such a format, but I figured for one small tournament it wouldn't be worth it -- plus I didn't/don't have a server, etc. But if it's a Marnid run ladder, who knows, could be worth it. You'd mainly want a mod for a timing function -- unconditionally dueling to 45 points could take a while depending on the opponents.
 
Deafening 说:
Voted 1, since it's simple.

Option 2 and 3 aren't appealing in their current format. They're pretty much the exact same thing as dueling solo -- you simply belong to some "team". How can I explain this... Essentially, it wouldn't matter if the team members' duels were played at a completely different times, etc. It's just a tally of each individual's win.

If you're up for a challenge, I'd vote running teams of three, using the format of my -- currently defunct? [size=6pt](am I worse than John at running tournaments?)[/size] -- tournament, i.e., a team fencing format. The reason I would suggest said format is the same reason that team fencing uses said format. It's intense and actually /is/ a team effort -- rather than a compilation of individual efforts.

I was actually thinking of making a mod to help facilitate running such a format, but I figured for one small tournament it wouldn't be worth it -- plus I didn't/don't have a server, etc. But if it's a Marnid run ladder, who knows, could be worth it. You'd mainly want a mod for a timing function -- unconditionally dueling to 45 points could take a while depending on the opponents.

the format is nice and decently easy but im pretty sure the only ones to do it are my team against 2 other teams so...
 
Kittens of Awesome vs. Champions of Rage And Penises Power has been cancelled.

KoA cannot issue a challenge for 3 days, CRAP cannot be challenged for 3 days, etc.

[Edit]

Team Old Players removed at captain's request.
 
John7 说:
Just blame Peers fat for all our problems

Thats the easiest solution

Lol, BkS was nice enough to lend us Peers for a bit.

After 3 drunken appearances and countless tks, we gave him back  :razz:
 
I voted for Singles, think it'll be easiest, great idea, sure 2's are good too, yadda yadda, etc. etc.

Just keep the battle ladder running. :xf-mad: It's what's kept the NA battle community where it is, and it's been the best thing to happen to it since Kitten's tournies. Keep it running. If you can't manage it, ask someone else to. NASTe, for all its flaws, is a great ladder and keeps the warband competition alive.
 
Eternal 说:
Just keep the battle ladder running. :xf-mad: It's what's kept the NA battle community where it is, and it's been the best thing to happen to it since Kitten's tournies. Keep it running. If you can't manage it, ask someone else to. NASTe, for all its flaws, is a great ladder and keeps the warband competition alive.

It won't be run exactly the same for the third season. Rule changes that were made this season will be publicly compared to old NASTe rules, and we'll see which rules the teams prefer to fight on and run with those. I know some clans still scrim with old NASTe rules (no map swap, first to 5, etc.) and I'm not opposed to that as long as we root out the horribly unbalanced maps (like old port assault, possibly village).
 
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