My Upcoming Medieval Society concept.

[Phoenix234]

Im currently working on a new system to partner my previous guild idea by adding a monarchy and nobles addition with the idea of making PW more organised and realistic for everyone who wishes to take part. Basically the aim is to create a form of medieval society, giving players a history and name for when they play instead of just being a list of names Im hoping to set up a roleplayed monarchy with nobles fighting each other for power till we have a Supreme ruler of the region.

Naturally it will be based around the different religions, factions and power ratings of everyone involved in my new project.

For example, Im aiming to basically create a relationship system between who supports who to the throne, there belief system and power rating on the PW world
Major Roles:

King/Queen: a player can claim the rank of king or queen but is considered illegitimate unless they have the support of a significant % of the Factions and Nobles. The Current King or Queen can be disputed by Warlords and other nobles if he can muster the support to have the majority

High Nobles: Im considering discussing this with Novicus to avoid issue, this list would be a PW player who has played noble with influence for a long time on pw, mainly Veterans, which may seem unfair but consider High nobles a older more recognisable brand name compared to a new noble group that appeared recently.

Nobles: These players will be players who have created factions AND been accepted from a vote between the current king and high nobles.

Warlord: Represent Leaders of factions not accepted by the current nobility as they are seen as illegitimate lords ( think right to rule on single player )

Minor Roles

Priests, Serfs, and so on who do have a role in who wins a war but wont be documented as they will be assigned to a certain religion or faction

Im currently playing with a visual method to show a factions rating, its strength, religion and claims which I want to combine with a large world map for the nobility to fight over.
This idea is more to entertain myself then to be used on a server but we can have some fun with it either way, and It would help me to know whos allied to who before accidently offending an army

 

[Centurion770]

Well guess that makes me a warlord. 

 

[Phoenix234]

Well guess that makes me a warlord. 

unless you had the majority support for king

Although once  that happened and you became a noble I imagine you wont lose that title, especially a high noble you just wouldnt be as respected if you lose your power after you tried to take over

 

[NOVICIUS]

Idea is good...

I would like to add King/Queen options to make somebody noble in return for support. This was REAL medieval practise:
- You are noble as long you have King/Queen who accept your position.
- You are King/Queen as long nobles accept your position
It works both ways.

High Nobles were from ancient nobility (or they claim it) which could and usually was older than Royal Family it self. On that base it would work well with vets. Some of them do not play anymore. Some of them have different role to play this days. First what we have to do is count them again and add some who become "ancient" in the mean time.

Being High Noble is all about prestige and some RP values. High Noble did not have to have real power. I removed Conrad recently because he lost his ways. Still...I removed him from the list but the very simple fact that once he was High Noble..This can not be taken away.

Go ahead and good luck.
[My idea of nobles was killed by new mod which did not give you personal heraldic shield anymore ]

 

[Lord_Ryizine]

Hmm would I be eligible fr a high noble position? I've been playing PW for a year now. Anyways, it sounds like a great idea, it will add even more depth to current rp.

 

[Phoenix234]

Hmm would I be eligible fr a high noble position? I've been playing PW for a year now.

I imagine we would use the old high nobles list, get the active nobles and have a vote on new entrants.

what is your character name and server? your forum name isn't farmilar to me

 

[Lord_Ryizine]

I am in game Ryizne_the_dragon of the NA server. Also am an admin, but wouldn't be in tags when role playing.

 

[Phoenix234]

I am in game Ryizne_the_dragon of the NA server. Also am an admin, but wouldn't be in tags when role playing.

I imagine there would need to be a wait for the merge before votes can happen anyway

since NA is like another country right now you would have a different monarch to EU

 

[Lord_Ryizine]

Wellwhen the merge happens, though I like things how they are tbh, I look forward to this.

 

[NOVICIUS]

I am in game Ryizne_the_dragon of the NA server. Also am an admin, but wouldn't be in tags when role playing.

I imagine there would need to be a wait for the merge before votes can happen anyway

since NA is like another country right now you would have a different monarch to EU

True but some of active (in some way at least) High Nobles are from NA.

As an..advisor
I would suggest to get nobles first and then move to find the King/Queen from them.

I am EU but I play more often on NA (because of my personal time zone)

I also would suggest to take opinion from Head Admins on players you do not know. I would insist on requiremants almost identical to the admins one. If I would have server with all High Nobles on admins would not be needed...

Sorry for imput Pheonix..I go away NOW

 

[Centurion770]

Ryzine your the blood god. And also there should be a high king who rules over the least kings who are the faction leaders.

 

[Reykjavikdragon]

Hmm Perhaps Priests/Religious Orders (Such as the Order of St Laszlo) could Rise up thier own alternative Hierachy and influence the legitimancy of a Monarch in thier own way, as During these times the Church did hold a lot of sway.

 

[NOVICIUS]

Hmm Perhaps Priests/Religious Orders (Such as the Order of St Laszlo) could Rise up thier own alternative Hierachy and influence the legitimancy of a Monarch in thier own way, as During these times the Church did hold a lot of sway.

Great Idea! How on earth it is not mine 

 

[Reykjavikdragon]

Wow I beat you to an Idea. my, St Laszlo must be guiding me XD

 

[Phoenix234]

Hmm Perhaps Priests/Religious Orders (Such as the Order of St Laszlo) could Rise up thier own alternative Hierachy and influence the legitimancy of a Monarch in thier own way, as During these times the Church did hold a lot of sway.

How I would manage this would be to ask all Persistent religious to declare leaders such as a pope and priests separably to factions and nobles

The the ruling faction decides the ruling religion. so religions wanting to be the main religion would need to work with factions.

Heretic is any priests and supports of the religions who arent in power making it easier to decide whos a heretic and who isnt

 

[NOVICIUS]

I got another one (if Phoenix do not mind):

How about:

Everyone has one shot to claim he is King. I mean ONE SHOT ONLY. He get extra founds from admins and he has to dominate game world on particular day as an leader but...

If he get killed ONCE = full NRL. His chance gone. This is very fresh idea from back of my head so give me a break...

I just read recently Game of Thrones (almost finished) and I ALWAYS wanted some goal for this game.

I let you elaborate this idea further

EDIT: And I agree on what Phoenix just said. However High Nobles were all committed to ST.Laszlo

 

[Calradianın bilgesi]

That's for NA or EU?

 

[Phoenix234]

I got another one (if Phoenix do not mind):

How about:

Everyone has one shot to claim he is King. I mean ONE SHOT ONLY. He get extra founds from admins and he has to dominate game world on particular day as an leader but...

If he get killed ONCE = full NRL. His chance gone. This is very fresh idea from back of my head so give me a break...

I just read recently Game of Thrones (almost finished) and I ALWAYS wanted some goal for this game.

I let you elaborate this idea further

EDIT: And I agree on what Phoenix just said. However High Nobles were all committed to ST.Laszlo

We never agreed to support laszlo btw.

I prefer not to force character deaths on anyone, i prefer Exile or left the country to return later with a army.

1 chance isnt as fun as coming back with more support later leading to in game battles over the crown

That's for NA or EU?

they are soon to be the same server anyway

 

[Troubles]

All in all, the idea is good. I'm sure you'll find some people who will become a part of your proposed society.

However, in my opinion, something has to be done in order to force everyone to become a part of the society. For example: Let's say that there's a king with his own noblemen, and there's another leader leading an uprising to become the new king. To achieve such roleplay, you'll need the majority of the players on the server to pick a side. The problem is, many people won't submit to any side, prefering to play as commoners (around 50% of the players EU), for they prefer to play the "commoner-independent-fullplate-knight" silly roleplay.
I think there should be more disadvantages of staying as a commoner, without an entity to back you up. A good way to do that is by mapping (to sell/buy/...etc, you have to be in a faction to reach the stockpile in need), and by faction control (gates should always be closed unless necessary; preventing non-faction members from wandering in the castle).

Don't let the word "force" above scare you, what I'm saying won't kill the fun for anyone, I think. People will have fun, as long as they're part of something. Of course they can still try to stay independent, but that should be a lot harder for them to do (harder that how it is currently).

 

[NOVICIUS]

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I got another one (if Phoenix do not mind):

How about:

Everyone has one shot to claim he is King. I mean ONE SHOT ONLY. He get extra founds from admins and he has to dominate game world on particular day as an leader but...

If he get killed ONCE = full NRL. His chance gone. This is very fresh idea from back of my head so give me a break...

I just read recently Game of Thrones (almost finished) and I ALWAYS wanted some goal for this game.

I let you elaborate this idea further

EDIT: And I agree on what Phoenix just said. However High Nobles were all committed to ST.Laszlo

We never agreed to support laszlo btw.

I prefer not to force character deaths on anyone, i prefer Exile or left the country to return later with a army.

1 chance isnt as fun as coming back with more support later leading to in game battles over the crown

That's for NA or EU?

they are soon to be the same server anyway

How I said..it was really so fresh idea I probably should not post..but..well..I get exited about yours and immediately I start to think about it. I was thinking about one chance because of so any guys saying here in forum.."I am god, I am king".

I do not think so that this guys have less right to try than vets. I do not think so that vets should be more successful in their attempt. What I am sure about: vets would be properly prepared before they will put their reputation on the line.

Only that's why I come out with it. Everybody have and should have a chance. It would be great to create (again) something which is as real in forum as it is in game.

Maybe it would be good to have statistics who held which castle for how long with how many people. I do not even know if this is possible.

@Troubles..what can I say..100% agree