MP expenses

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tommylaw

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As those who live in Britain and have mild contact with the news should know, MPs have been sponging on expenses claims for food, insurance, tax, second homes amongst other things.

What got me was - they get paid, the have a salary. Most people who have a job and gets paid buys their own food, and insurance, and mortgage.
They get 65k a year, that's more than what the majority of people earn, but they still don't have to pay for their own gardening tools.

The new 'tighter' system doesn't seem to be much better.

I say abolish the expenses claims, they can pay for it with their bloody wages.
 
Meh, it sucks but it really isn't worth all the news coverage. Sure they ****ed us over and a new system is preferable but I'm sure there's something more important going on in the world.
 
Wait, what? You're complaining about people with a hard ass job, who are constantly open to critizism and abuse having a 65k salary?
 
Elenmmare said:
Wait, what? You're complaining about people with a hard ass job, who are constantly open to critizism and abuse having a 65k salary?

Some of them abuse the system by claiming for a second home that they don't actually have or aren't entitled to claim for. If Joe Average did that, he'd be done for fraud, slapped in prison, and not allowed to own anything more than a toothbrush for the rest of his life. Yet MPs get to say "Oh, sorry, my bad, I won't do it again" and it's suddenly all better. Somehow, I don't think the banks and the government would accept an apology from Joe Average.

 
No, I'm complaining about them having a 65k salary and still not paying for their:

food
morgage
council tax
capital gains tax
rent
hotel fee
gardening tools
I forgot the rest.

A guy even claimed for a ****ing moat!
Another for a duck island.

Elenmmare said:
Wait, what? You're complaining about people with a hard ass job, who are constantly open to critizism and abuse having a 65k salary?
Evidently it's not that hard since they're all idiots.
 
Ah, I see. Still, its not as bad as you think. Remember that most of them have student loans, no doubt.

Also, the higher the benefits, the more likely you'll have people deciding to follow a career in helping society.
 
Pharaoh Llandy said:
Elenmmare said:
Also, the higher the benefits, the more likely you'll have people deciding to follow a career in helping society.

And yet a couple of MPs managed to get by by claiming no more than £400 for the entire year.

But not every MP has a moat!
 
Elenmmare said:
Wait, what? You're complaining about people with a hard ass job, who are constantly open to critizism and abuse having a 65k salary?
Poor ****ing babies. If they can't hack the job, they have no business being in politics. In fact, it's only since WW1 they even got allowed a house; if people like Pitt can manage an entire Empire without having to sponge housing and day to day expenses from the public, I fail to see why Brown can't manage a piss up in a brewery when he can.

Elenmmare said:
Also, the higher the benefits, the more likely you'll have people deciding to follow a career in helping society.
No, the more likely it is you'll get people looking for financial gain rather than any real interest in serving their state. Politicians should be forced to cap their salaries at whatever the mean average earnings are for the country as a whole (which co-incidentally gives them some pretty good motivation to get off their arse and improve things), and since it's public money they're claiming, any expense claim should be published and require justification to any constituent who queries it.

Bugman said:
Meh, it sucks but it really isn't worth all the news coverage. Sure they ****ed us over and a new system is preferable but I'm sure there's something more important going on in the world.
Sure. We'll allow our government to fall to corruption and misappropriate the national treasury because some Z list celebrity had a spat on US TV :roll:
 
Right, Arch, because everyone is a saint. If I go for a job, I go into it for money. Don't let anyone fool you into thinking they're doing it for anything else. Obama wants power. *Everyone* outside of humanitarian work wants power. Of course, if I had the chance to 'help society' and sleep better at night while getting only 10k less than usual, I guess I wouldn't mind. But the people that get these jobs have degrees in law or other high levels of education. Its hard to turn down a high paying job for a ****ty government job where clearly you'll be despised at every step of the way.

Also, I was of the impression that we're talking 65k USD. If its in pounds, that's a bit more reasonable.


Kobrag said:
I was thinking the same thing. :neutral:

That's because you're ridiculously immature. Who do you think's going to protect you from the mobs of homosexual-fearing other anarchists?
 
Elenmmare said:
Also, I was of the impression that we're talking 65k USD. If its in pounds, that's a bit more reasonable.

Why would a British person posting a thread about British news and British politics convert a sum of money into a useless and irrelevant currency?
 
Elenmmare said:
Also, I was of the impression that we're talking 65k USD. If its in pounds, that's a bit more reasonable.
Yes, I was speaking in pounds.

Elenmmare said:
Its hard to turn down a high paying job for a ****ty government job where clearly you'll be despised at every step of the way.
Being an MP is a high paying job, and they brought the hate on themselves.

Elenmmare said:
Right, Arch, because everyone is a saint.
When did he say that?
 
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