Guys, he wasn't being serious...
An extremely well made sword, perhaps; however, the same could be said of an extremely well made axe, falchion, mace, etc. What are the specifics of making a sword that are so different or esoteric that the cost of a sword would be driven so high? The material and amount are comparable to other similarly-sized weapons, and the shape is relatively simple.Delvestius said:MadocComadrin said:I'm not from the Sage's Guild, but I'm pretty sure this is a myth.
Comparitively speaking he's right, only nobles and wealthy men would have had the capital needed to fund the smithing of a sword, a good one anyways. Axes and spears were the weapons of the commoner.
mauhur said:stop defending them with your life man, just don't. I never asked for magical weapons, did you ever see me say: I WANT MAGICAL WEAPONS! no. please just don't make up stuff and say that i did not explain while i perfectly did, saying that two handed axes were common, unlike two handed swords, it is based on the evidence that they might even used two handed axes of chopping wood and not war, hell even socked axes.kalarhan said:mauhur said:Its their design that failed in the release though, and this is my suggestion to make it better than it is..
Just cause you disagree with something you cant say it failed.
You dont like it. They decided based on historical evidence and their own judgment that it would not fit the game design.
If they decide to revise the design and add it... ok. If you make a suggestion based on a real argument... ok. Complain and name calling will not help... at all.
Go ahead: make a suggestion. Explain that you want a multiplayer option for magical weapons. Should include a 2H axe with lightning effects. You can ask for anything. Just explain why. Who knows, you may get their attention for a new item.
Also i spoke that for everybody, i am the only one that waited for two handed axes,
MadocComadrin said:An extremely well made sword, perhaps; however, the same could be said of an extremely well made axe, falchion, mace, etc. What are the specifics of making a sword that are so different or esoteric that the cost of a sword would be driven so high? The material and amount are comparable to other similarly-sized weapons, and the shape is relatively simple.Delvestius said:MadocComadrin said:I'm not from the Sage's Guild, but I'm pretty sure this is a myth.
Comparitively speaking he's right, only nobles and wealthy men would have had the capital needed to fund the smithing of a sword, a good one anyways. Axes and spears were the weapons of the commoner.
Swords were used by common folk too, they just didn't wear them around and about as a display-piece.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viking_Age_arms_and_armourMadocComadrin said:An extremely well made sword, perhaps; however, the same could be said of an extremely well made axe, falchion, mace, etc. What are the specifics of making a sword that are so different or esoteric that the cost of a sword would be driven so high? The material and amount are comparable to other similarly-sized weapons, and the shape is relatively simple.Delvestius said:MadocComadrin said:I'm not from the Sage's Guild, but I'm pretty sure this is a myth.
Comparitively speaking he's right, only nobles and wealthy men would have had the capital needed to fund the smithing of a sword, a good one anyways. Axes and spears were the weapons of the commoner.
Swords were used by common folk too, they just didn't wear them around and about as a display-piece.
MadocComadrin said:What are the specifics of making a sword that are so different or esoteric that the cost of a sword would be driven so high? The material and amount are comparable to other similarly-sized weapons, and the shape is relatively simple.
Swords were used by common folk too, they just didn't wear them around and about as a display-piece.
RabbleKnight said:Devs posted on one of the other complaint thread, they apologized and said they were working to patch it.
Armagan said:This was our first release as an independent developer and apparently we still have a long way to go and much to learn. I want to apologize to our players and especially the Brytenwalda team for this problematic release. It was our duty as Taleworlds and of course my duty as the manager to make this release as smooth and satisfactory as possible. Unfortunately we failed in this. However, I want everyone to rest assured that we will work very hard in the coming days together with the Byrtenwalda team to fix all the problems and make sure that players will get a great gaming experience and fully enjoy Viking Conquest's innovative features and excellent storyline.
SNguyen93 said:Also, is there an official place to post for bugs and stuff?
Start your own...thread? Dont encourage them!Delvestius said:Feel free to post on an existing list or start your own
I suppose it depends on what you're definition of sword is. If it involves intricate restrictions on guard and blade length, tang and constraints on material quality, then yeah, they probably didn't own swords. To me, and many others, if it looks like a sword, works like a sword and smells like a sword, it's a sword. That is to say, if a commoner had constructed a functional, sword-like object from "lesser" materials, then what would it be? A large knife? I would consider the distinction between the two arbitrary.Leifr Eiríksson said:MadocComadrin said:What are the specifics of making a sword that are so different or esoteric that the cost of a sword would be driven so high? The material and amount are comparable to other similarly-sized weapons, and the shape is relatively simple.
Swords were used by common folk too, they just didn't wear them around and about as a display-piece.
Much larger quantities of iron, iron that was rarely found in Europe at the time, for a start. The material and amount isn't comparable, it's vastly different. You're ignoring a ****-ton of research and history here Madoc, I expected more really - go and have a read around bud.
That is to say, if a commoner had constructed a functional, sword-like object from "lesser" materials, then what would it be?
MadocComadrin said:I suppose it depends on what you're definition of sword is. If it involves intricate restrictions on guard and blade length, tang and constraints on material quality, then yeah, they probably didn't own swords. To me, and many others, if it looks like a sword, works like a sword and smells like a sword, it's a sword. That is to say, if a commoner had constructed a functional, sword-like object from "lesser" materials, then what would it be? A large knife? I would consider the distinction between the two arbitrary.