Just Denmark and Norway. Focus is on the conquest of the British Isles.
Mount & Blade: Warband - Viking Conquest DLC (Release Date: 11th December)
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Partly because they are subject to change and we don't want to scatter random information about that might turn out to be wrong.
We will reveal more as time goes.
We don't want to go into details of the many features.twinsens said:
Partly because they are subject to change and we don't want to scatter random information about that might turn out to be wrong.
We will reveal more as time goes.
Armaury said:Recent studies showed that there where many girls fighting in the ranks of Vikings, more than expected, on that side the series is good, with shieldmaidensmaybe in Viking Conquest too ^^ (cause they probably watched the show and had the idea to add this cool female warriors)
Which study are you referring to? I've read all French specialists of Vikings and never came upon such things: for example there is no 'viking' grave featuring a female warrior say burried with her weapons and so on.
Don't get me wrong, I WANT to see female warriors in the game, I'm just talking about historical stuff here. I think 'shielmaidens' like the TV show would be cool, but I don't think it is anyhow historical. The only mentions are tied to mythology and imaginative stuff just like the Valkyries, but it ain't real.
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And building on that, Greenland would be awesome also, to explore and such.Inanch-Bilge said:Is Iceland included in the map ?
Would be kind of cool to role play and go back in history to try to make Viking colonies successful.
Looks promising, I'm looking forward to this one.
Lord Reaver
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Looking forward to it.
Glad it's going to be a single player DLC. I just hope the troops jumping onto shore won't be to buggy, or weird looking.
Glad it's going to be a single player DLC. I just hope the troops jumping onto shore won't be to buggy, or weird looking.
Can't remenber the exact link i read in first but there is many articles on the subject, that there were more women than expected in england invasion and in that part few that got sword and shield in their graves:http://content.usatoday.com/communities/sciencefair/post/2011/07/invasion-of-the-viking-women-unearthed/1?csp=34tech&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+usatoday-TechTopStories+%28Tech+-+Top+Stories%29&siteID=je6NUbpObpQ-K0N7ZWh0LJjcLzI4zsnGxg#.VEG8vRZ0Uxx
Et un lien en français ^^ http://www.ulfelagar.org/femmes-combattantes-vikings/
Lope de Rojas
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That article is not saying that there were female warriors, just that the vikings took their women with them when they kind of "colonized" the place... Even more, maybe they arrived latter, when the territory were conquered, not during the "invasion". But you know, media tends to do that kind of things (http://www.tor.com/blogs/2014/09/female-viking-warriors-proof-swords)
You can read more about it here:
http://www.medievalists.net/2014/09/03/2011-article-viking-women-now-getting-mainstream-media-attention/
http://www.themarysue.com/viking-warrior-women-disappointed/
http://www.missedinhistory.com/blog/raining-on-your-parade-about-those-women-viking-warriors/
Idibil would apreciate more this link: http://thevalkyriesvigil.com/2014/09/08/la-mitad-de-los-guerreros-vikingos-no-eran-mujeres-y-otras-formas-de-tergiversar-la-historia/
You can read more about it here:
http://www.medievalists.net/2014/09/03/2011-article-viking-women-now-getting-mainstream-media-attention/
http://www.themarysue.com/viking-warrior-women-disappointed/
http://www.missedinhistory.com/blog/raining-on-your-parade-about-those-women-viking-warriors/
Idibil would apreciate more this link: http://thevalkyriesvigil.com/2014/09/08/la-mitad-de-los-guerreros-vikingos-no-eran-mujeres-y-otras-formas-de-tergiversar-la-historia/
Niiiiicceeeee! Can't wait
Viking women warrior is a complex theme, I remember that our Historian, Yeyo, was looking at each book about this , he could talk about better than me. But In my opinion, in all cultures women are a inspiring element for warriors in a mystical sense as tje Valkyrjar (valkyries) Sigrun, Svava and Kara for norse culture. In Viking Age, we have important women: Aslaug (you know her ), Osburh (Alfred's mother)... who were important, especially through their children. In the war, certainly the activity was almost exclusive to men, as usually happens, but as in all times there were women who broke the mold (Asa Haraldsdottir could be a example accord info we have about her) and also we have the legend of the skjaldmö that we read in Sagas or The Gesta Danorum, but no archaeological evidence.
, he could talk about better than me. But In my opinion, in all cultures women are a inspiring element for warriors in a mystical sense as tje Valkyrjar (valkyries) Sigrun, Svava and Kara for norse culture. In Viking Age, we have important women: Aslaug (you know her ), Osburh (Alfred's mother)... who were important, especially through their children. In the war, certainly the activity was almost exclusive to men, as usually happens, but as in all times there were women who broke the mold (Asa Haraldsdottir could be a example accord info we have about her) and also we have the legend of the skjaldmö that we read in Sagas or The Gesta Danorum, but no archaeological evidence.
Thanks for the links anyway (Merci xD). But yeah it shows mostly that Vikings planned settlement operations earlier than we fought and thus brought their women with them.
Now the fact is that all the graves found mixing women with weapons were mass burrials and then you can't tie the women to the presence of weaponry. The French blogger is writing on the base of the Saxo Grammaticus, a christian chronicle from 13th century, there's no historical fact to take for the Viking era in there in my honest opinion. Moreover, none of his sources are from actual historians: the only proper source is the Jean-Pierre Troadec's exegese of the Saxo Grammaticus, basically a journalist working on a biased source. The two other sources of the blogger are rather doubtfull websites obviously made in the late 90's with only a couple of source references which are.... sagas! Yes mythology once again.
About the archeological found the blogger is talking about, I would have proper references to them, especially the one found in England with sword and shields: he said analysis has been done quite a while after, well if it happens to be true there must be several historical studies about this major found somewhere! His 13th century baltic burrial is out of date also.
For example, the smallest evidences of female warriors burials about the famous Amazons in Southern Ukraine (female warriors in Scythian society are almost a fact now) were a major found and there is serious works on this. Now such founds for the Vikings would have been known outside a blog I think. I bet you those were mass burials as well, that's why the author doesn't quote any reference or source about it.
Now the works of historians like Régis Boyer or Marmier show the historical tasks of those "following" viking women: french chronicles about the Siege of Paris (885-886) talk about women following the Norsemen to bear supplies, heal the wounded, make food or weep the fallen: thus they were held in great respect, but not for fighting skills. Now maybe one occasionally took a weapon to deal with a particular situation, we just don't know. But it ain't no Valkyries, shieldmaiden or anything else, those are all tied to mythology and later christian sources.
Now the fact is that all the graves found mixing women with weapons were mass burrials and then you can't tie the women to the presence of weaponry. The French blogger is writing on the base of the Saxo Grammaticus, a christian chronicle from 13th century, there's no historical fact to take for the Viking era in there in my honest opinion. Moreover, none of his sources are from actual historians: the only proper source is the Jean-Pierre Troadec's exegese of the Saxo Grammaticus, basically a journalist working on a biased source. The two other sources of the blogger are rather doubtfull websites obviously made in the late 90's with only a couple of source references which are.... sagas! Yes mythology once again.
About the archeological found the blogger is talking about, I would have proper references to them, especially the one found in England with sword and shields: he said analysis has been done quite a while after, well if it happens to be true there must be several historical studies about this major found somewhere! His 13th century baltic burrial is out of date also.
For example, the smallest evidences of female warriors burials about the famous Amazons in Southern Ukraine (female warriors in Scythian society are almost a fact now) were a major found and there is serious works on this. Now such founds for the Vikings would have been known outside a blog I think. I bet you those were mass burials as well, that's why the author doesn't quote any reference or source about it.
Now the works of historians like Régis Boyer or Marmier show the historical tasks of those "following" viking women: french chronicles about the Siege of Paris (885-886) talk about women following the Norsemen to bear supplies, heal the wounded, make food or weep the fallen: thus they were held in great respect, but not for fighting skills. Now maybe one occasionally took a weapon to deal with a particular situation, we just don't know. But it ain't no Valkyries, shieldmaiden or anything else, those are all tied to mythology and later christian sources.
Das Knecht said:
That was also the case of ancient Celts, but not in a fighting purpose, these massive women gathering behind the fight occured mostly when Romans faced whole migrating people who brought wives and children with them. And Yeah, I think it was the exact same purpose of those following norse women, like I said up there, taking care of the baggage, healing wounds and so on. But that's it.
On a side note it's theoretically possible for the player to avoid fighting altogether, no mater how boring that would be.
So for the player to be female is not breaking any historical accuracy
So for the player to be female is not breaking any historical accuracy
I agree it does not seem to be any historical fact, i understood that there were graves of women with weapons, but the articles are quite confused making me thinking there were unique and not mass graves. There are still clues (saxo grammaticuschronicles,Two high-status women wearing luxury clothing and aged approximately 55 and 70 were found in the Oseberg longship funeral like kings or jarls, lagertha who was reputedly a shieldmaiden) that go in the direction of female combatants even if we do not have factual.
I found this article pretty good http://blog.britishmuseum.org/2014/04/19/viking-women-warriors-and-valkyries/
and this one http://history-behind-game-of-thrones.com/characters/vikings-yara#identifier_3_1768
And another one saying that some swords were found near a woman bones http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2017251/Family-affair-Viking-warriors-joined-wives-invaded-Britain.html
And this one very interesting http://sciencenordic.com/don%E2%80%99t-underestimate-viking-women
I can't find more serious articles this is pretty a mess
I found this article pretty good http://blog.britishmuseum.org/2014/04/19/viking-women-warriors-and-valkyries/
and this one http://history-behind-game-of-thrones.com/characters/vikings-yara#identifier_3_1768
And another one saying that some swords were found near a woman bones http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2017251/Family-affair-Viking-warriors-joined-wives-invaded-Britain.html
And this one very interesting http://sciencenordic.com/don%E2%80%99t-underestimate-viking-women
I can't find more serious articles this is pretty a mess
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