Ludial said:since some point in the past, even when I roleplay, I always make sure to have my head well protected, no matter what. Hence the bascinet on a Vaegir char
both quite weaker than a reinforced bascinet, and I`d never in my life put on a nordic helmet - I hate Nords too much. Plus, I like cultural diversity as a concept(one of the reasons I like Vaegirs and Rhodoks so much), so I don`t really have that much of a problem with a bascinet. I`d never put on a flat-topped helmet either, or any of the great helmets.Gabeed said:Ludial said:since some point in the past, even when I roleplay, I always make sure to have my head well protected, no matter what. Hence the bascinet on a Vaegir char
I'd probably go Nordic helm or spiked helm instead. Both are a bit more Vaegir.
Your gonna get in trouble for thatLudial said:and I`d never in my life put on a nordic helmet - I hate Nords too much.
AK47 said:Where's the third option? Heraldric mail with surcoats are awesome AND protective.
AK47 said:It's cause you're missing this:
no you need to pick out of the 2 extreems otherwise everyone would go for the easy way.AK47 said:Where's the third option? Heraldric mail with surcoats are awesome AND protective.
It is true that it might guide the tip of a spear or a sword thrust right in the wearers eye but we have to know something about the weapons from that era too. We also have to remember that people usually wore shields. In a one on one fight it might be hard for the opponent to aim on the helmet. If he however does that, and succeds in getting a hit in the face it will guide the tip of the weapon away from the nose if he scores a low hit and the tip will be guided upwards if he scores a higher hit. That means he has to hit close to the eye for the tip to actually hit the very eye. And while he has difficulties concentrating on the head he has already given his opponent an advantage etc. etc.Kasimir said:I wouldn't see it as argument if you know the advantages of them - I always welcome the chance to learn more.
Thinking about it, I imagine they would be excellent against cutting blows to the face from weapons such as seax and axe, and edged sword blows, but I still think very risky against sword thrusts or spears.
The part about them guiding weapons towards the eyes is actually recounting the experience of reenactment groups such as hurstwic - http://www.hurstwic.org/history/articles/manufacturing/text/viking_helmets.htm
Anyway, here is the relevant portion.
Other styles of helmets have been found. The well known helmet (left) found at Gjermundbu in Norway has a spectacle-like covering for the face. A modern reproduction with a similar style is shown to the right. The spectacle style is somewhat frightening both for someone on the outside looking in, and for someone on the inside looking out.
From the outside, it presents a frightening visage to the opponent, since the face is covered and made anonymous. But it's even more scary from the inside, since the spectacles catch incoming spear tips and sword points and guide them right into the wearer's eyes. They're very dangerous in simulated combat, and in real combat, too, I imagine.
However, the original helmet has what appears to be battle damage (a sword blow and an arrow puncture) to one of the plates, so perhaps my modern preconceptions about the danger are in error.