"Mount and Blade" more like "Pitchfork and Sickle"

[MojoJojoGR]

Army building should be a priority in an army building game.

The devs seem to have put that aspect of the game at the bottom of the list.
We already had a problem with safely storing troop in garrisons to train new troop due to the food problem in towns, now we have no way of efficiently training troops with the auto-resolve nerf. Which by the way was the only real way to lvl the Tactics skill.

This has dumbed down the core army building aspect to simply going around and gathering recruits and peasants rather than putting the time to build an efficient and tactical army.

We need the training fields to train troop just like in Warband or at least something equivalent.

 

[iimstevo]

Army building should be a priority in an army building game.

The devs seem to have put that aspect of the game at the bottom of the list.
We already had a problem with safely storing troop in garrisons to train new troop due to the food problem in towns, now we have no way of efficiently training troops with the auto-resolve nerf. Which by the way was the only real way to lvl the Tactics skill.

This has dumbed down the core army building aspect to simply going around and gathering recruits and peasants rather than putting the time to build an efficient and tactical army.

We need the training fields to train troop just like in Warband or at least something equivalent.

The only way around this I'm seeing, is by only building a party of companions, and having the companion limit modded so you're able to increase the number of companions you can have with you.

 

[froggyluv]

I like low tier weaponry. Sword are for pompous P********

 

[RegamusMaximus]

The only way around this I'm seeing, is by only building a party of companions, and having the companion limit modded so you're able to increase the number of companions you can have with you.

My semi decently equipped companions get there arse whopped when out numbered slightly even by a few looters.Troop skills seem ****ed or something, because it seems short of armour, a lvl 1 peasant is no different from a T6 legionary

 

[LordRumblebee]

I'm still able to train troops really quickly just by auto-resolving against bandits. It's pretty tough when you first start on a new save but it's not that difficult especially once you get rolling. And as you build up in the game you'll get access to recruit higher level troops right from the settlements.

 

[King Yngvar]

My semi decently equipped companions get there arse whopped when out numbered slightly even by a few looters.Troop skills seem ****ed or something, because it seems short of armour, a lvl 1 peasant is no different from a T6 legionary

Then armor needs a serious buff.

 

[MojoJojoGR]

I'm still able to train troops really quickly just by auto-resolving against bandits. It's pretty tough when you first start on a new save but it's not that difficult especially once you get rolling. And as you build up in the game you'll get access to recruit higher level troops right from the settlements.

That wasn't really my point.
My problem is why should you loose troops when auto-resolving against a group of looters that would result in no losses 100% of the time if done manually. It adds an extra drawback to an already sluggish way of training troops.

 

[Midnitewolf]

Well we are missing the skill that passively allowed our troops to gain skill, well I should say the skill is there but you don't get any XP for your troops out of leveling it.

 

[eddiemccandless]

That wasn't really my point.
My problem is why should you loose troops when auto-resolving against a group of looters that would result in no losses 100% of the time if done manually. It adds an extra drawback to an already sluggish way of training troops.

I think that having to rely on looters to train your troops is fundamentally flawed. What we need is passive training by fixing the relevant perks for Leadership.

 

[iimstevo]

My semi decently equipped companions get there arse whopped when out numbered slightly even by a few looters.Troop skills seem ****ed or something, because it seems short of armour, a lvl 1 peasant is no different from a T6 legionary

I actually created a mod for this (the companion-only party).
You pay a reduced fee for the companion based on their skill levels, and pay an upkeep for them as well.
It's then upto you as the player to kit them out based on their skills to improve their effectiveness.

The next step really would be to actually fix the levelling system :/

 

[CasualLazyGamer]

Well we are missing the skill that passively allowed our troops to gain skill, well I should say the skill is there but you don't get any XP for your troops out of leveling it

The medium XP to T1-3 troops daily perk works in all my playthroughs

 

[Maximum997]

The medium XP to T1-3 troops daily perk works in all my playthroughs

What we need is passive training by fixing the relevant perks for Leadership.

Yea, i was really glad to get that mighty 30 xp per day XD You need just 10 days to upgrade 1 tier1 guy

 

[LordRumblebee]

Having training grounds like in Warband would be a good help too. I used to go into training camps in Warband to get my recruits up to a basic level of training and gear without having to go around and auto-resolve. An updated version of the party camp system in Warband could be really cool too

 

[giltirn]

+1 for training camps and trainer skills. It's completely unrealistic to have to genocide legions of bandits in order to grind up soldiers for a garrison. IRL virtually all combat experience would come through training.

 

[Rafalongo]

now going to fith give more xp to the troops. But yes, we need a traingin fields for the troops.

 

[TheWitchIzalith]

+1 For trainer skills and Training related perks.

I have fun manually leveling my guys, Go into a fight (looters, Sea raiders, Mountain bandits) weaken them with stronger troops IE Cavalry or companions + you.

Then pull back and watch your recruits mop up. More rewarding to me that way. I personally don't get why people just Auto-resolve for Elite troops with out ever actually investing in them, but am not opposed to other leveling methods being available for said players.

 

[Maximum997]

+1 for training camps and trainer skills. It's completely unrealistic to have to genocide legions of bandits in order to grind up soldiers for a garrison. IRL virtually all combat experience would come through training.

It is great idea. Add this to casstles and towns and It can solve few big problems:
1) With nonstoping waves of the same lords. Becouse after recruiting they should spend some time for training troops (make them do it!)
2) With armies of lords that have 80% of pesants.
3) battles are not a pesant slaughter grind anymore

 

[MojoJojoGR]

+1 for training camps and trainer skills. It's completely unrealistic to have to genocide legions of bandits in order to grind up soldiers for a garrison. IRL virtually all combat experience would come through training.

Not to mention that with the food problems in towns putting your troops in garrisons is as good as throwing them away in this state of the game.