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Most effective chatacter builds
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You can always open a bug thread if you think that this is a bug.A little bit off-topic but i think that "either with a shield or without" should be "either with or without a shield"
Is that usage of either-or duo grammatically correct? @MArdA TaleWorlds
Good points. I feel like leadership is underwhelming even with those perks, but given enough focus points there's no reason not to take it I guess.
Trade perks are nice, but it's just way too boring for my taste and takes a lot of time.
Indeed, some riding could be useful.
It's hard to tell since there's no immediate effect when you get this perk. But the math says I get +25% damage and 10% speed at 300 skill, so that's what I'm going with.
No mods, max difficulty. Just a lot of battles and a lot of killing does the trick.
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As I thought. On the way getting this last 2h perk your damage is already too high so you don't even see a difference by the time when you get it.
No, its because when you get it, the perk literally does nothing. It's a 250 skill perk that slightly increases your speed and damage for going above 250. So the change is very gradual, that's why it's hard to notice.
But you're right that the extra damage is not super useful, except that with an axe it helps getting double kills more often. And more attack speed is always nice of course.
Also wondering this
I just can't, I thought I could reach 300 trading, but I got only 175 and it's so boring. It goes so slow after 150 . Year 1092 and barely made 1.5 million.
Smithing is fun , unless you reach max level , then it's not fun anymore.
I think better play as military character, it's way more fun , and yet it depends... As Vlandian vassal we've been fighting Battania for 8 in-game years , it's so boring to fight recruit packs over and over again. I think better play for empire , so I fight different foes.
Also I was trying to get 1st scout perk having only 3 cunning, and it took 8 in-game years. Even medicine takes only 1 year with same conditions.
Smithing is fun , unless you reach max level , then it's not fun anymore.
I think better play as military character, it's way more fun , and yet it depends... As Vlandian vassal we've been fighting Battania for 8 in-game years , it's so boring to fight recruit packs over and over again. I think better play for empire , so I fight different foes.
Also I was trying to get 1st scout perk having only 3 cunning, and it took 8 in-game years. Even medicine takes only 1 year with same conditions.
I think there's somthing wrong with scouting ATM, I'm still not at 175 in like 18 year game with 9 cunning. In games in 15.6/7 I would be 275+ by now.
I don't think some parties are leaving tracks when they used to in earlier versions.
I focus on trying to level up according to my playstyle.
For example, I ride my horse a lot, use polearm (as main battle tactic), so points go in there.
I also trade a lot in early game, and do missions (so persuasion/charisma skill - forget what its called).
In this way, I put level up well doing the things I usually do. Sometimes I try to spread them out, but find that doesn't work as well (except into the late game).
Thats my advice - level up how you play, not play to level up.
For example, I ride my horse a lot, use polearm (as main battle tactic), so points go in there.
I also trade a lot in early game, and do missions (so persuasion/charisma skill - forget what its called).
In this way, I put level up well doing the things I usually do. Sometimes I try to spread them out, but find that doesn't work as well (except into the late game).
Thats my advice - level up how you play, not play to level up.
I think the old leveling system was more fun. You could do whatever you want and keep leveling up.
If you mean warband, yes I agree, I would rather just Kill guys choose option for points, the end.
If you mean early bannerlord, I agree with the caveat that it needed some work, but I did like that it at least entertained the idea of min/max and controlling you build via not raising skills you don't want (thus not over leveling).
I think TW misunderstood people's complaints as a too simplistic "we're not LEVELING enough" and now yeah you level and level and level, but actually improving you character via skills and perks is still too slow and actually becomes much slower and you can't stop because every thing makes you level up no matter what.
I also wonder if there is a misunderstanding between the people making the char dev system as to what attributes/fp actually do versus SKILL and PERKS, for instance the education system is described as "making you children stronger" however they actually barely get any skill so the start out very weak and are limited to gaining skills in the same way companions are... SLOWLY or NOT AT ALL (except riding+ Bow/Xbow and steward, those are okay)
"oh you train with the...whatever... and you get + soc and 1fp in leadership" that super spiffy TW, but the kid needs to also get like 50 leadership skill each time it take leadership learning option so it can start with decent leadership at 18 LIKE A NPC LORD! Otherwise it's nonsense because you can't make them level leadership in any reasonable amount as a non-player-character, no matter what SOC and fp they have.
Early bannerlord.
Empire should have universities. Mount and blade fith fire and sword actually has this system. You just leave npc in university, pay money, and after some time npc gets +skill. Easy to establish, plus one more money sink.
Also books , empire yes, but not sure about battanians, wall painting ?? not sure if it matches the age of the game though.
Devs said they are working on another way to level up medicine skill , I hope they do same with leadership and other "frustrating " skills.
Yes if they fix this stuff I'll main max Int for sure.
TheLordOfTheDiamond
Regular
whatever perk you get, Trade should always be a priority imo because it is the only perk that gives you an alternate gameplay.
Perks and skill tree's don't really seem balanced at all, some really useless ones like charm at higher levels do nothing even the level 275 perk is like 5+ influence a day, leadership at level 275 is 25 + units, but by then you probally have army capacity of 400, so +25 would be hardly noticable.
enginering seems pointless to focus on, probally better to stick it on a companion that starts with it and ignore it.
some really good skills, for me is still leadership though, getting it to 150 allows turning bandits into elite troops, worth the focus points, but not stats, coupled with Roguery level 125 increased chance for bandits surendering by 30% getting units is trival, coupled with Steward for the equitment gives exp, really easy to level units.
places to put points for me would be cunning and intelligence, Scouting and Steward just level on their own, Tactics is really good too espcially when getting the level 275 perk. It's not sucide like warband once the Tactics level ups, can still lose a unit when using send troops and outnumbering the enemy, against 50 forest bandits or a lord with 100 men but you get way more prisoners and Leadership has many perks that incerases recruitment of prisoners.
useing send troops alot also gives alot of wounded units making it easier to level Medicine, getting the 275 perk in medicine would be nice
the vigor tree dosen't do much for me, useing two handed polearm swing weapons from horse their pretty much 1 hit everything, once you get the good polearm unlocks from smithing you can even craft 190 + swing damage polearms, im not much for Ranged but without investment it seems bad, compared to meele weapons where you can get 1 hit wonder weapons
even though companions can take over Scouting (execpt 275 perk), Steward, Medicine it feels better to take them on the player, current top picture is before day 1200, and their hardly level up, execpt for my 1 main smithing companion thats level 25.
what I would redo would be to focus on getting 4 focus points in Smithing its enough to get the 175 half trade pentalty for smithing weapons, also plenty of exp from doing smithing to level the character faster at the start, would still aim for a Main companion smithy, maybe 2 focus points only in Charm the relationship bonus from releasing lords is nice but the skill is pretty meh overall
the 1 stat point and 5 focus for leadership is worth it with so many good perks in the tree, the level 275 is just bait and not worth it, once you get tier 4 clan, you can form parties with companions and easliy level it to 150 then. before day 600 picture
Dabos37
Sergeant Knight at Arms
The most effective build is just around one single perk: Artisan Community.
Just try to level up Trade at 125 ASAP to get this perk, and remember to build a new workshop every time you get a new clan tier. Even if you do not fight any battle, you are going to reach clan Tier 5 at day 700 or so. The easier (but also the most bored) way to play the game (without using exploits) is just rushing this perk, buy these workshops which give you +200 denars daily, get two caravans in early game (caravans are ok the first 500 days) get a decent party but do not pay more than 600-700 denars daily or so (enough for defeating any lord in 1v1), and you are going to be swimming in money and renown pretty fast.
Just try to level up Trade at 125 ASAP to get this perk, and remember to build a new workshop every time you get a new clan tier. Even if you do not fight any battle, you are going to reach clan Tier 5 at day 700 or so. The easier (but also the most bored) way to play the game (without using exploits) is just rushing this perk, buy these workshops which give you +200 denars daily, get two caravans in early game (caravans are ok the first 500 days) get a decent party but do not pay more than 600-700 denars daily or so (enough for defeating any lord in 1v1), and you are going to be swimming in money and renown pretty fast.
