Zhaker
Sergeant
So I tried a few things in version 1.011
1. Merchant Run Made about 10k Denar a week if lucky with the abundance of spice. Otherwise its about 5-8k depending on what I can scrounge up.
2. Got Narra ( Very Rich with its influence on 10 ) but I make about 1.5k Denars per week :\.
3. I have 2 Villages ( both Rich and its influence on 100 ) and I make about 1k Denars per week give or take. They are not close either mind you so doh.
4. I own also a Keep but that was because I needed to store some troops at the start.
5. Fighting lords and looting all their loot with only 70-100 men yields roughly 500-1000 denars depending on how much loot I get as well as the quality ( it seems the bigger the lords the better ).
6. Arena wise is 2k - 4k denars but they come in few and between and sometimes they are too far from where I am
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7. Siege wise, if I dont initiate it I get squat if I help, and if I do it alone I dont get much either, even cities where I thought I'd get like 10k per siege or something with all them loots.
The timeline was something like this:
Do Arenas -> Got enough renown to Join Swadia -> War with Kerghit and hit them hard -> Capture a few towns and also a close by Keep -> Captured all Khergit Cities and asked for Narra ( Which I got ) -> Attacking Rhodoks (STUCK)
My situation:
When I had the keep I had to do an upkeep of about 3k Denar for about 200 troops ( Mostly Kerghits Veteran Soldiers and also Swadian Knights ). And that was cool because I was actually making money. By killin
I got Narra, and I found myself with an upkeep of 10k Denar with about 300 troops extra ( Mostly again Kerhigts Soldiers and Knights ). And right now I'm forced to do more merchant runs than ever before. I actually now finding the game more irritating because I'm scrounging up money to make ends meet. And the last time I had 200 troops at Narra I had barrages from the damn Nords with 800 troops and the Rhodoks constantly at my doorstep. When I had about 300 they stopped coming over lolz.
I wished I never gotten Narra as a city as its actually now not worthwhile in the first place to get. Whats the deal with having a city with very rich getting only as much as a Village, I always thought that it'd be worth 3 Villages or more or something :\. Its turning me off and I wanted to control many cities but now I'm very close to stopping play altogether.
I did some cheating and examples and gotten some militias and what not, and it costs me about 2k less but its still hectic as it is keeping this town as its costing me too much.
I do remember however that on Betas and what not this wasn't as difficult. Hell I remember having 3 towns with 300 troops and also 1 City with 200 troops and the upkeep was the same, but the trade was alot more profitable and fighting lords was alot more profitable, nowadays the scraps I get from the lords isnt worth the grain in salt, hell even raiding caravans is a bore, as it yields very little reward.
My only guess is that:
a. City money is alot less than beta, hell I get more when I was asked to get money off Praven, Suno, and villages too :\.
b. Rewards for taking out lords with high numbers yields very little rewards, remember that taking out lords I could just make 2k to 3k denars on gear alone. And I make about 1k to 2k denars on Caravans...
c. Upkeep is more costly than before ( though I didnt think so originally either, ahvent got the beta as I removed it but I can find out in a moment I guess ).
I dont know how people who play M&B 1.011 go by with upkeep of 10k get it so easily, I dont capture all the time and I dont exactly have the patience to keep retrying to ensure I capture a lord. And yes if I captured a lord this probably wont be a problem but the time for the ransom to come up is also less :\.
Is there anything else I can try ( and no I wont stoop myself in ransacking villages because it'd make too little difference anyway, and yes I tried it and it works but its only temporary and works well only on Average+ Villages, which unfortunately for me isn't many at the moment ).
I dont want to resort to ctrl-x spamming so I can get by... or edit my denars... I feel jealous that most of the lords can field 500+ troops ( well ok 350 troops in a town and 150 on foot ). and raid and I'm stuck on a merchant run to get by.
EDIT:
I loaded up my old game 0.960 save, and just so I have about 120k denars on that game. I have like 500 troops in 2 cities and 200 troops in one keep. I think I break even if I do my rounds and get my tax. I admit the last game was a too easy with the money but the new Money on 1.011 is so pain train. I woulda been content if the city taxes I get was about 3k to 4k on very rich. But I'm curious to ask people who has this 10k upkeep and still pay it off what you're doing to make ends meet, I dont think that your towns would break even would they, and how many troops do you folks have?
1. Merchant Run Made about 10k Denar a week if lucky with the abundance of spice. Otherwise its about 5-8k depending on what I can scrounge up.
2. Got Narra ( Very Rich with its influence on 10 ) but I make about 1.5k Denars per week :\.
3. I have 2 Villages ( both Rich and its influence on 100 ) and I make about 1k Denars per week give or take. They are not close either mind you so doh.
4. I own also a Keep but that was because I needed to store some troops at the start.
5. Fighting lords and looting all their loot with only 70-100 men yields roughly 500-1000 denars depending on how much loot I get as well as the quality ( it seems the bigger the lords the better ).
6. Arena wise is 2k - 4k denars but they come in few and between and sometimes they are too far from where I am
.7. Siege wise, if I dont initiate it I get squat if I help, and if I do it alone I dont get much either, even cities where I thought I'd get like 10k per siege or something with all them loots
.The timeline was something like this:
Do Arenas -> Got enough renown to Join Swadia -> War with Kerghit and hit them hard -> Capture a few towns and also a close by Keep -> Captured all Khergit Cities and asked for Narra ( Which I got ) -> Attacking Rhodoks (STUCK)
My situation:
When I had the keep I had to do an upkeep of about 3k Denar for about 200 troops ( Mostly Kerghits Veteran Soldiers and also Swadian Knights ). And that was cool because I was actually making money. By killin
I got Narra, and I found myself with an upkeep of 10k Denar with about 300 troops extra ( Mostly again Kerhigts Soldiers and Knights ). And right now I'm forced to do more merchant runs than ever before. I actually now finding the game more irritating because I'm scrounging up money to make ends meet. And the last time I had 200 troops at Narra I had barrages from the damn Nords with 800 troops and the Rhodoks constantly at my doorstep. When I had about 300 they stopped coming over lolz.
I wished I never gotten Narra as a city as its actually now not worthwhile in the first place to get. Whats the deal with having a city with very rich getting only as much as a Village, I always thought that it'd be worth 3 Villages or more or something :\. Its turning me off and I wanted to control many cities but now I'm very close to stopping play altogether.
I did some cheating and examples and gotten some militias and what not, and it costs me about 2k less but its still hectic as it is keeping this town as its costing me too much.
I do remember however that on Betas and what not this wasn't as difficult. Hell I remember having 3 towns with 300 troops and also 1 City with 200 troops and the upkeep was the same, but the trade was alot more profitable and fighting lords was alot more profitable, nowadays the scraps I get from the lords isnt worth the grain in salt, hell even raiding caravans is a bore, as it yields very little reward.
My only guess is that:
a. City money is alot less than beta, hell I get more when I was asked to get money off Praven, Suno, and villages too :\.
b. Rewards for taking out lords with high numbers yields very little rewards, remember that taking out lords I could just make 2k to 3k denars on gear alone. And I make about 1k to 2k denars on Caravans...
c. Upkeep is more costly than before ( though I didnt think so originally either, ahvent got the beta as I removed it but I can find out in a moment I guess ).
I dont know how people who play M&B 1.011 go by with upkeep of 10k get it so easily, I dont capture all the time and I dont exactly have the patience to keep retrying to ensure I capture a lord. And yes if I captured a lord this probably wont be a problem but the time for the ransom to come up is also less :\.
Is there anything else I can try ( and no I wont stoop myself in ransacking villages because it'd make too little difference anyway, and yes I tried it and it works but its only temporary and works well only on Average+ Villages, which unfortunately for me isn't many at the moment ).
I dont want to resort to ctrl-x spamming so I can get by... or edit my denars... I feel jealous that most of the lords can field 500+ troops ( well ok 350 troops in a town and 150 on foot ). and raid and I'm stuck on a merchant run to get by
.EDIT:
I loaded up my old game 0.960 save, and just so I have about 120k denars on that game. I have like 500 troops in 2 cities and 200 troops in one keep. I think I break even if I do my rounds and get my tax. I admit the last game was a too easy with the money but the new Money on 1.011 is so pain train
. I woulda been content if the city taxes I get was about 3k to 4k on very rich. But I'm curious to ask people who has this 10k upkeep and still pay it off what you're doing to make ends meet, I dont think that your towns would break even would they, and how many troops do you folks have?
