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Hi everyone,

While I was digging around the forum looking for answers on my questions, it occurred to me to note the links I found most helpful in answering the necessary “noob” questions, and to organize them into a reference of sorts. Hope it will help all you new modders as it helped me.

This list is incomplete, mainly because I am continuing to search the forum (and will be updating the Modopedia in the process), but also because I am sadly incompetent in the arts of modeling and texturing and have therefore omitted all questions related to this. If you want to add more links, please PM your list to me (preferably with a short title for each link) and I will edit this front post – just to keep the Modopedia in a single piece.

I tried to list only the most helpful links, to save time spent on browsing. Some material is repeated several times, some other is outdated. Let me know if I missed something.

A good place to begin – before reading this forum section and using Modopedia – is to do the Module System Documentation tutorial very carefully, step by step. It has answers for most of the noob questions, and time spent doing the tutorial will return tenfold when you get to actual work

Another general request to all those who post new threads would be: please make the names of your threads *specific*! Instead of writing smth like “Help me help me or I will die!!!” a more relevant “need help with creating an item (or whatever)” would be more in order.

Yours, SC.
And now, the links:

How do I use Edit mode?
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,10371.0.html - a .750 Edit mode tutorial by Armagan

How do I handle towns?
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=4a421afb177ef04b5c3e26f4ab693478&/topic,8532.0.html – deals with a possible bug with having too many towns in game.
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,15183.0.html – why do towns become battles?
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,8605.0.html – another like problem, with code
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,14376.0.html – safely removing towns
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,13584.0.html – a mistake with merchants
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,11706.0.html – teleportation issues
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,10910.0.html – another question about towns

How do I add new troops/NPCs?
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,10998.0.html – a solution for quick adding of troops
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,14900.0.html – help with adding an NPC
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,6990.msg103506.html#msg103506 – a bit of python code
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,14583.0.html – changing gate watch

How do I add new items?
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,6687.msg98377.html#msg98377 – robrob’s short tutorial
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,14464.0.html – a mistake you can avoid
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,10901.0.html – animation problem

How do I add/change scenes?
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=4a421afb177ef04b5c3e26f4ab693478&/topic,5751.0.html – a comprehensive guide
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,11701.0.html – a discussion on altering the look of scenes

How do I handle party spawns?
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,6687.msg98377.html#msg98377 – a three-step “wizard” for adding new SPs.
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,12135.0.html – a quick SP solution.

How do I create dialogs?
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,6197.0.html - a tutorial by Fujiwara. It's old but I haven't seen any newer one.

How do I restrict an item to appear only in certain shops?
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,15835.0.html
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,6575.msg316865.html#msg316865
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,6575.msg316669.html#msg316669

How do I create spawn points?
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,16811.0.html

How do I assign a unique face texture to a character/faction and/or add items from another mod ?
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,16585.0.html

How do I use conditions on adding NPCs to scenes?
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,8652.msg174760.html#msg174760

How do I use these funky val_max, val_min, & val_mod operations?
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,8652.30.html

How do I get parties travel around?
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,6575.msg307641.html#msg307641

If you're in for more serious work, these are the links for Python script request / exchange threads:

http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,13632.0.html

http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,8652.0.html

 
smiling_cataphract said:
How do I use Edit mode?
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,4458.0.html – all you wanted to know about EM but were too shy to ask

This thread is vastly outdated -- last post was in 2005, for pity's sake -- especially as the edit mode has undergone significant changes in the last M&B version.

Lymphatically,
Winter
 
What is the 32 sampler per sound error?

http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,15546.0.html

Where can i learn how to texture?

http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,14245.0.html

I don't know where to start with 3d modelling!?

http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,10868.0.html

Where can i learn how to rig my models? / I can't add new horses or armor!

http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,15272.0.html

How do i unwrap my model?

http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,11531.0.html
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,9290.0.html

How can i use Gmax for importing/exporting .SMDs?

http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,13615.0.html

(for the handle new towns one)

http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,13556.0.html <--- adding a new map location

How do i make new scenes and scene props?

http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,11559.0.html

(for the NPC troops section)

http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,6197.0.html <---- how do i add new dialogue for my NPCs?

How do i create new textures for my items?

http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,8437.0.html

(replacement for the edit mode link)

http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,10371.0.html

Can you tell me a little more about modelling?

http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,14395.0.html

How do i edit the in-game font?

http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,6563.0.html

I need an introduction for adding new items to the game.

http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,6146.0.html

All my armors are really shiney!

http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,1726.0.html

Can i make beach type scenes?

http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,15561.0.html

How do i spawn new parties?

http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,12811.0.html

I'm having some problems when i import my mesh into BRFedit!

http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,15428.0.html <--- half the faces are missing and the texture isn't applied properly.
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,15414.0.html

http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,14974.0.html <--- I keep getting this error: "This mesh does not have vaild texture co-ordinates."

http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,15245.0.html <--- I'm having trouble using blender



I'll organize them into proper groups later.
 
I'm not sure who stickied this, it wasn't me, but I don't really think we should make this list here.

The Q&A thread is for this stuff:

http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,6575.0.html

Many of these questions are answered there.  Though a lot are not.  I will go through and add what is not in the Q&A thread to that thread, and replace this thread with another sticky that links to the Q&A thread.  It is pointless to have 2 threads with the same purpose.

I appreciate the effort you made getting all the links though, it will be a great help updating the Q&A thread.
 
Thorgrim said:
I'm not sure who stickied this, it wasn't me, but I don't really think we should make this list here.

The Q&A thread is for this stuff:

http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,6575.0.html

Many of these questions are answered there.  Though a lot are not.  I will go through and add what is not in the Q&A thread to that thread, and replace this thread with another sticky that links to the Q&A thread.  It is pointless to have 2 threads with the same purpose.

I appreciate the effort you made getting all the links though, it will be a great help updating the Q&A thread.

Hell, you're right... it looks like I've missed the most important thread of all :smile: . Though on the second thought, the Q&A thread seems misplaced. After all, it is this part of forum that most newb modders seek answers. Like me, for example. Wouldn't it be more logical to move the Q&A here?
 
Maybe, however this sub forum was originally just for Unofficial tools, however it is turning into more of a "Mod Making Help" forum these days... maybe the sub forum title should be changed.  BTW, most tutorials are in the Mod Discussion forum too.

I think if we have a sticky with a link to it, it should do though.  Just need to find some time to merge the 2 threads then I'll do that.
 
Thorgrim said:
maybe the sub forum title should be changed.  BTW, most tutorials are in the Mod Discussion forum too.

Changing the name would be good I think. Mod Discussion forum is generally used... well... for discussing mods already in existence. Besides, it's huge, and finding something in it may be a rather challenging task.

I looked for the tutorials there and found a couple (most are outdated). Yoshiboy has already mentioned some, the rest I included in the edited front post.
 
Great thread, glad I found it. However I am having trouble finding the .Py files.

I'm on vista and I already switched my Mount&Blade folder to make it more public so I can see all of the inner files, I want to edit Dialog, so, why can't I find any .Py files, as the Dialog Edit tutorial as linked within this thread states there should be?

edit:


welllll instead of being a complete noob here to piss you all off, I've decided to read a bit more. I just want a confirmation, must I use python to be able to see .py files in my M&B folder? thanks ahead of time for any response.
 
Penlord said:
welllll instead of being a complete noob here to piss you all off, I've decided to read a bit more. I just want a confirmation, must I use python to be able to see .py files in my M&B folder? thanks ahead of time for any response.
Yes, you must have Python and the Official Module System.
 
Penlord said:
Great thread, glad I found it. However I am having trouble finding the .Py files.

I'm on vista and I already switched my Mount&Blade folder to make it more public so I can see all of the inner files, I want to edit Dialog, so, why can't I find any .Py files, as the Dialog Edit tutorial as linked within this thread states there should be?

edit:


welllll instead of being a complete noob here to piss you all off, I've decided to read a bit more. I just want a confirmation, must I use python to be able to see .py files in my M&B folder? thanks ahead of time for any response.

Thy python scripts do not come with the install, you need to download them seperately. They can be found in a stickied post in the modding section.
 
Awesome ... This at least gives me something to do and learn before i start making my mod..... though it seems like I will soon have  a headache trying to grasp it all.
~Good Job on Sticking it all together. Really helps a relatively uneducated modder like me.
 
Jenove said:
Awesome ... This at least gives me something to do and learn before i start making my mod..... though it seems like I will soon have  a headache trying to grasp it all.
~Good Job on Sticking it all together. Really helps a relatively uneducated modder like me.

Don't forget this stuff is from 2006, there may be plenty of new guides/docs/help stuff spread in the forum
 
I would like to know how to Add new face textures to M&B without replace the existing ones. I could not find a tutorial about this.

Thanks.
 
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