Modding Q&A [For Quick Questions and Answers]

[KratosMKII]

Is there a way to randomize or at least assign a new face to a hero troop through a script?

I've never tried, but presumably that's what these operations are for:

str_store_player_face_keys            = 2747 # (str_store_player_face_keys, <string_no>, <player_id>), #Stores <player_id>'s face key into string.
player_set_face_keys                  = 2748 # (player_set_face_keys, <player_id>, <string_no>), #Sets <player_id>'s face keys from string.
str_store_troop_face_keys             = 2750 # (str_store_troop_face_keys, <string_no>, <troop_no>, [<alt>]), #Stores <troop_no>'s face key into string. if [<alt>] is non-zero the second pair of face keys is stored
troop_set_face_keys                   = 2751 # (troop_set_face_keys, <troop_no>, <string_no>, [<alt>]), #Sets <troop_no>'s face keys from string. if [<alt>] is non-zero the second pair of face keys is set.

Those worked. Thank you. Now i don't need to create one troop for each of the bajillion faces that bloat the save and screw performance.

 

[Dalion]

How can I check if agent is under water? There is no such operation or trigger so I guess I should mess with positions?

 

[Somebody]

You get the agent's z position and compare it with the water level in the scene using either position_get_distance_to_terrain/position_get_distance_to_ground_level

 

[Maelubiyet]

Hey, I'm working on the thread for my mod but I don't know how to take good screenshots. When I use edit mode, it shows barriers and entry points and it kinda ruins the screenshot. I feel like there's an easy fix to this that I'm overlooking, so I'd really appreciate it if you pointed me in the right direction.

Cheers.

 

[Marko͘]

Press H while in edit mode.

 

[Maelubiyet]

Thank you.

 

[Youngragnar]

Does anybody think its possible to get diplomacy mod working on viking conquest? or merge the two?

I realise this is a much asked question in the past, but my coding knowledge is very limited and I wondered how much hard work it would be if possible to get diplomacy features into viking conquest.

If someone could give me some ideas and info to point me in the right direction regarding this it would be really appreciated 

 

[kalarhan]

Does anybody think its possible to get diplomacy mod working on viking conquest? or merge the two?

nope

you can implement similar features/mechanics on VC, but  you wont be able to use diplomacy code on a simple COPY & PASTE way. Besides that VC already has its own version for similar mechanics as diplomacy, so you will also need to first study both modules, how they work, and decide which ruleset (or even a third one, as in, your custom version) to implement to each mechanic.

 

[Youngragnar]

Yeah I thought this would be the case, the code needing to be adjusted to fit VC.

I thought it would be nicer to have the diplomacy system since the criteria for alliances etc does'nt seem to be as difficult compared to VC.

It would also be nice to have other features like gifting fiefs to other factions for example which you cant currently do in VC.

Thanks for the quick answers on both post! 

 

[xenoargh]

Does spawn_scene_prop actually work now?  It's still marked, "not yet".

 

[Ruthven]

Does spawn_scene_prop actually work now?  It's still marked, "not yet".

Yes it does work and will return the instance id, though I use WSE so maybe that fixes it. Pretty sure it was fixed in one of the 1.16 patches though.

 

[xenoargh]

Aha.  I'll try it out; got a wild idea that this would be handy for 

 

[Maelubiyet]

Just making sure: unless stated otherwise, I can remix OSP resources (meshes, textures etc.) anyway I want, right?

 

[Crossbow Pig]

Just making sure: unless stated otherwise, I can remix OSP resources (meshes, textures etc.) anyway I want, right?

yes, as long as they are OSP and not LSP, those have their own rules set by the authors.

 

[Maelubiyet]

Just making sure: unless stated otherwise, I can remix OSP resources (meshes, textures etc.) anyway I want, right?

yes, as long as they are OSP and not LSP, those have their own rules set by the authors.

Are LSP resources unremixable by default or does the author have to point it out in the rules?

I realize I'm asking very newbie questions today, please bear with me.

 

[Crossbow Pig]

author makes they own rules
https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,377920.0.html

 

[Marko͘]

If still in doubt, you can always post here(or PM me) and ask for a speciifc pack.

 

[Maelubiyet]

If still in doubt, you can always post here(or PM me) and ask for a speciifc pack.

I just checked it and turns out I only use two LSP packs, the rest are OSP. First one is TLD, but in the post it was released as LSP, they state that the resources can be modified. However, the second is Vyrn, I believe it is okay as well? I sent a PM to the author just in case.

Another question:

I posted about a problem I was having with my mod a few days ago. If I alt+tab and come back during the first loading screen, there is a 1/3 chance of game crashing when I start a new game (at loading map file) or loading a savegame (at launching game, both of those are before "initializing map" if I'm not mistaken). This doesn't happen if I don't alt+tab during loading screen and the mod runs as intended. Although it is not game-breaking, I wanna fix this before I release it.

So I tested the same thing with other mods, huge ones, like Perisno and it doesn't happen. My mod is relatively smaller at 250mb. So I made another test with turning pixel shaders and vertex shaders off and there wasn't any problem over ten tries (would like to point out I don't have any custom shaders or music).

So I'm thinking maybe I **** up adjusting shaders and material-texture flags in brf's? What might be causing the problem?

ps: I don't know if it's related but I use "skeleton_shader" a lot.

edit: I forgot to mention, this only happens on fullscreen. One of the reasons why I can't narrow it down to a single item or aspect in the mod as I was testing the stuff I added in windowed mode for weeks.

Here is the rlg_log:

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[Trueten]

Another question:

I posted about a problem I was having with my mod a few days ago. If I alt+tab and come back during the first loading screen, there is a 1/3 chance of game crashing when I start a new game (at loading map file) or loading a savegame (at launching game, both of those are before "initializing map" if I'm not mistaken).

I used to run WB with different mods on a PC and alt+tabbed to the desktop and back with no problems.
Yet on a laptop (that has better GPU) every alt+tab crashes the game.
Dunno if the alt tab issue even must be solved. I use alt+enter for that reason and everything works fine.

 

[Maelubiyet]

I don't think this is the common alt+tab problem as I can alt+tab and back on native and a lot heavier mods. In fact I can safely alt+tab and back on my mod on battles and worldmap etc.