Microsoft announce Windows 8 rework

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I actually didn't mind it once I got use to it but only had to put up with w8 on my laptop so it wasn't all to bad. After trying the beta out on my desktop though I figured there wasn't much point in running it over 7.
 
Hoo-****ing-rah! I want my start button, and I want my start menu. I want my applications like Skype to run in windowed mode, not full screen. I want my PC to be a PC, not a tablet whoring itself out in a PC's clothes.
 
Pharaoh Llandy 说:
Hoo-****ing-rah! I want my start button, and I want my start menu. I want my applications like Skype to run in windowed mode, not full screen. I want my PC to be a PC, not a tablet whoring itself out in a PC's clothes.
They actually made the Windows store version as bad as all the default apps? Why do they insist on using a system so obviously designed for tablets and smartphones?
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Well ****. The more I've used Windows 8, the more I like it. I hope they don't mess up the good parts.

I hated the start menu, and literally never used it. It was an ugly cluster**** where you couldn't find ****.

The fact that PC owners are so stuck in the mud and apposed to any kind of learning is rather disgusting.
 
As with any system, it's personal preference. I hate the huge-ass buttons that fill up my entire screen. The taskbar shortcuts are perfect, easily customizable, although somewhat limited. Windows would be far better off just adding a more easily customizable shell than trying to force one on everyone.
 
What's the use of taking the mouse to the top centre of the desktop and dragging down? I've failed to find a use for such feature.
 
But what purpose does that funcion serve? It literally does nothing that would be of use to anyone, tablet or not.
 
Ljas 说:
What's the use of taking the mouse to the top centre of the desktop and dragging down? I've failed to find a use for such feature.

That was very useful on AmigaOS which has different actual screens that could be any resolution and any depth consisting of any windows of programs-games. Can't say that it's useful on Windows and at this age.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yV7viWBSxs

Of course it had more uses back in the day (90s) than this.  For example, You could have a rendering program doing its thing that took hours (a 50mhz 68060 was around the speed of a 200 mhz 486. That is slow by today's standards) and could drag the workbench screen down to see the progress. Or you could direct a screen to another monitor (for example a movie) if you had the hardware and keep using your system (going to bbses, running multimedia applications, playing games, etc)

This feature of Amiga probably had it's uses for example for NASA. It made life easier for specialized tasks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAPD9HA8Unw&list=PLE0C736AAA92C841D&index=5
 
Trevty 说:
Skype runs in windowed mode if you install it as a desktop app and not from the store.

When I switched my laptop on for the first time, Skype was already there in the "desktop of stupidly stupid tiles," I didn't install it at all. I didn't WANT to install it (I have it on my desktop, not a clue why I'd want it on my laptop too) but hey, if it's going to be there, it should at least frigging run in windowed mode.

Llew 说:
The fact that PC owners are so stuck in the mud and apposed to any kind of learning is rather disgusting.

Yes, we PC owners tend to commit the terrible crime of living by the motto, "if it's not ****ed up, don't **** with it."

I'm not rabidly advocating the removal of the "desktop of stupidly stupid tiles" -- I just want the CHOICE to go back to being able to switch off my computer with two or three clicks instead of having to engage the keyboard. If I wanted a tablet layout, I'd get a tablet. I don't need my OS dumbing down for the sake of people who can't organise their files into suitable menus. Without the CHOICE to pick "classic layout" (a choice which WinXP gave) I'm being forced to use a system that, really, sucks. I can't get KMPlayer working on Win8, and Roughdraft ain't that great either. So what do I use my shiney new Win8 laptop for? Playing games. And that's about it.


 
Pharaoh Llandy 说:
I just want the CHOICE to go back to being able to switch off my computer with two or three clicks instead of having to engage the keyboard.

The only way to turn off the laptop according to what I found out is to go the settings from the thing that pops up from the right of the screen, choose power settings and click shut down. Is there any other way? (The old way in which we click Start and than shut down is definitely much more useful and stupid)
 
I just want to know what he actual tablet to desktop/laptop ratio is right now.
The way they're pushing this ****, you'd think PCs are extinct.

The fact that PC owners are so stuck in the mud and apposed to any kind of learning is rather disgusting.

Maybe that's a reslut of the thing being geared towards using your ****ing fingers on a screen so much, trying to use a mouse and keyboard starts feeling like like doing handstands on a melting ice slope?
 
It's ridiculous for Microsoft to throw out a completely new way of doing things that not only provides no advantages, it sucks in itself. If it actually had perks, I'm sure many people wouldn't be as against it.
 
Trevty 说:
Then install it like you would any regular app.  It's no more work than you would have to put in on a 7 computer.

What? I see these words on my screen but they don't make any sense! I have a PC and a Blackberry. There is no such thing as "regular app". I've never installed an "app" in my life, and I don't particularly want to. I install programs or 'applications' as they were known back in my day (aka, 18 months ago). I do the things that ask me which exact file paths to download and install stuff to and that makes me happy because then I know where stuff is. But Windows 8, oh god, I don't think it even has file paths, I think it's just a mass of tiles which randomly gobble up anything and everything that you try to do. I have to put text files on my desktop because if I saved them anywhere else I would NEVER be able to find them again, they would be lost to the void of stupid tiles.

SPEAK YE OLDE ENGLISH, TREVTOR!

(Also I don't have Windows 7, so saying "IT'S JUST AS EASY AS WINDOWS 7!" doesn't really mean anything to me.)

ancalimon 说:
The only way to turn off the laptop according to what I found out is to go the settings from the thing that pops up from the right of the screen, choose power settings and click shut down. Is there any other way? (The old way in which we click Start and than shut down is definitely much more useful and stupid)
Ctrl+alt+delete and power button in the corner.  It's how I've restarted computers for as long as I can remember.

Like Trevty said, the best way is to ctrl-alt-del and hit the power button in the bottom corner. But I only found this out by accident (I was desperate and thought I might at least find the task manager there. Can't remember if I did or not.)

 
Windows 7 was an amazing operating system, Windows 8 just seemed way to rushed. I run on Windows 7 though, so I wouldn't know.
 
Odyseuss 说:
Windows 7 was an amazing operating system, Windows 8 just seemed way to rushed. I run on Windows 7 though, so I wouldn't know.

W8 is just their dumb attempt to try and market a tablet OS system and **** over anyone who is using it on a desktop, plain and simple.

Microsoft ought to fire all their senior executives and start hiring more young talented people before they start screwing up even more with dumb ideas.
 
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