Micro transaction for bannerlord. hope it's not true.

[Piconi]

LoL, i`m the one who made this positive propaganda gif 

 

[Frostic]

I have a source too

https://youtu.be/ggsfGaVoOhQ?t=245

4:05

Don't believe anything you read on the internet

Haha good find Younes! 

 

[Revverie]

Glad to hear they're fake, still the discussion was... interesting? People defending MTX is way far my imagination... its too late to change it? Imagine if people said that but with slavery? Uhm nope far too late, slavery is part of our lives now, nothing we can do about it

 

[Younes]

No more time to remove MTX,

while the MTX are not even finished and all there is are placeholders lmao

 

[FlaviusBelisarius]

Just to throw my hat into the mix, i would personally be disappointed if they added mtx into the game. while it is a decent system for free to play games, i highely dislike it in games that i actually paid for. the majority of the community either dont care about it or reject it, and i dont think tw would alienate large parts of their community. however, if tw truly needs this in order to aquire the needed revenue in order to keep going, its an evil i would be willing to accept.

 

[Gibby Jr]

Glad to hear they're fake, still the discussion was... interesting? People defending MTX is way far my imagination... its too late to change it? Imagine if people said that but with slavery? Uhm nope far too late, slavery is part of our lives now, nothing we can do about it

Imagine comparing microtransactions to slavery.

Personally think that cosmetic only MTX would be fine, as long as it was only a small number of items that weren’t otherwise available at all in the game (as in, those items don’t exist in SP either). I can’t support them having SP items and gear available in MP but you have to pay for it, that’s just a slap in the face tbh, but I think it’s a shame so many people just oppose all forms of MTX. Personally think the best way is to have unlockable skins in MP, the majority of which are got by grinding (either for an in-game currency like Mordhau or by completing certain set challenges for different gear pieces), but to have a few very unique pieces which either cost a lot of in-game currency or a very small amount of real money. As long as the real money number is kept very low (50 cent) then I think complaints would be low. Just a shame that we’re at a point where people hear MTX and immediately freak out. We know TW would use the money either to fund patches and DLC or to make a new game in the future.

 

[Younes]

Glad to hear they're fake, still the discussion was... interesting? People defending MTX is way far my imagination... its too late to change it? Imagine if people said that but with slavery? Uhm nope far too late, slavery is part of our lives now, nothing we can do about it

Imagine comparing microtransactions to slavery.

Personally think that cosmetic only MTX would be fine, as long as it was only a small number of items that weren’t otherwise available at all in the game (as in, those items don’t exist in SP either). I can’t support them having SP items and gear available in MP but you have to pay for it, that’s just a slap in the face tbh, but I think it’s a shame so many people just oppose all forms of MTX. Personally think the best way is to have unlockable skins in MP, the majority of which are got by grinding (either for an in-game currency like Mordhau or by completing certain set challenges for different gear pieces), but to have a few very unique pieces which either cost a lot of in-game currency or a very small amount of real money. As long as the real money number is kept very low (50 cent) then I think complaints would be low. Just a shame that we’re at a point where people hear MTX and immediately freak out. We know TW would use the money either to fund patches and DLC or to make a new game in the future.

You wonder why people freak out about MTX with the experience of the gaming industry having poor implementations of micro-transactions?

Also why should you want the company to use ingame transactions to fund DLC as to opposed i don't know, use DLC to fund DLC?



Also there is a massive difference between DLC and MTX.

DLC is centered around ADDING content, things that were not there in the base game.

MTX is centered around adding to the existing game systems, where not actual content is added, or any depth (aka cosmetics)



People claiming that they are a business who need to make money are completely neglecting to the fact they are selling a product that people need to WANT to buy. If they do this they will make money no matter.

 

[danEN]

To be honest, even though I'm against micro transactions, if someone wants to give TW money from their own choice for purely cosmetic changes, there's not really a negative in that.

 

[Younes]

To be honest, even though I'm against micro transactions, if someone wants to give TW money from their own choice for purely cosmetic changes, there's not really a negative in that.

Its a problem if the game has been centered around implementing those MTX and cutting edges.



Does it not sound perfect how the class system perfectly fits this system, and how "FullSkins" which perhaps they could sell at a higher price could perfectly fit the game with the class system?

 

[OurGloriousLeader]

Why would skins work better with this system than in Warband, which had lots more unique items and combinations, which would be a better "marketplace" for that kind of thing?

drakememe.jpg of beta community:

-giving constructive feedback on combat, balance, mechanics, and maps  - No thanks
-reviving conspiracy theories about microtransactions and competitive esports influence - Yes please

 

[Younes]

Like i said, something called "fullskin" could be sold as a whole instead of selling it for individual pieces. Which works for bannerlord as classes and since the armor does not change a lot in the current class system you could more easily implement this.




In order to put this unique feeling warband had, instead of having this as something already in the game you put it behind a paywall. Something that was a full "feature" so to speak aka the customization has now been put behind a paywall.


The lack of customization is an insult. Justifying it behind cosmetics is even more insulting.



And like you said about warband having much unique combinations, is exactly why it would be harder to implement in warband. It's a lot more work and remember, skins are just a quick money. You paid 60 bucks for the game with a full out fleshed campaign with mechanics and behavior and 3d models compared to lets say 60 bucks worth of skins? See if they are both worth the same.

 

[OurGloriousLeader]

It would be slightly harder but way more attractive - I'm more likely to want to splash out on some sick leather gloves than for some "fullskin" for "Fiann with additional arrows perk" which is just lame.

They've been upfront about their reasoning for the class system (whether I agree with it or not) and they've been upfront about the status of microtransactions (not implemented or planned for). Why continue to rant about it?

 

[Younes]

It would be slightly harder but way more attractive - I'm more likely to want to splash out on some sick leather gloves than for some "fullskin" for "Fiann with additional arrows perk" which is just lame.

They've been upfront about their reasoning for the class system (whether I agree with it or not) and they've been upfront about the status of microtransactions (not implemented or planned for). Why continue to rant about it?

Ranting about it so we can come back when they decide to implement it.



Placeholders are big indicator they have had or still have plans for MTX.

My biggest problem is how vague the response is. They let it open for interpretation, and leave the door open for later.

Hi everyone,

Just wanted to make a clarification on this issue. Micro-transactions are not something we are actively working on at the moment. However, cosmetic only micro-transactions are a great way to fund active multiplayer updates and if we decide to add purchasable or grindable skins at some point, we'll definitely make them strictly cosmetic-only.

Also, the idea that class selection was added to facilitate micro-transactions makes absolutely no sense. Warband's multiplayer equipment system was more or less inspired by Counter Strike, and Valve doesn't seem to have any problems using Micro-transactions with their game. We could have used an equipment selection system for multiplayer and devise a monetization system for it quite easily. Frankly, micro-transactions is the last thing in our mind, since we still have the huge task of creating a successful and fun multiplayer game experience.

Its not a simple, Yes we are going to implement cosmetic shop. Or no we are not going to. Armagan mentions purchaseable OR grindable. Which is why this is frustrating because its not giving a clear picture.


Most things if not all feature in the game have been addressed by either the devs or when the community brings it up.


The problem with this is they only talk about when its brought up, or when confronted about it on the skins leak thread, where as bright as sky a dozen of devs were reading it, only armagan decided to answer because its either something they don't want to talk about, or have been trying to hide it.



Those are thing that should be transparent to the community, but they never decided to bring it up on their own.

 

[OurGloriousLeader]

There's nothing vague about it, they're not doing it but it's an option in the future (aka years past Early access). They confirmed skins well before people "discovered" it and started assuming microtransactions.

 

[James_Lindsay]

There's nothing vague about it, they're not doing it but it's an option in the future (aka years past Early access). They confirmed skins well before people "discovered" it and started assuming microtransactions.

That's the definition of vague

 

[OurGloriousLeader]

Stating "it's not in the game" is not vague.

 

[Younes]

There's nothing vague about it, they're not doing it but it's an option in the future (aka years past Early access). They confirmed skins well before people "discovered" it and started assuming microtransactions.

Where did taleworlds confirm this?

 

[OurGloriousLeader]

Petmonster in a comment somewhere, in response to criticisms about lack of customisation.

 

[Younes]

Petmonster in a comment somewhere, in response to criticisms about lack of customisation.

Petmonster?

Hard to prove since most of his posts have been removed. And i was following the thread closely i never saw any mention of it.

 

[OurGloriousLeader]

I'm informing you it happened, you can choose to worry about proving if you like.

edit:

https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,385213.msg9131773.html#msg9131773

Here is M responding to it and pointing out it was removed.

Here is petmonster admitting he said it:

https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,385213.msg9131825.html#msg9131825