Memoirs of German officers in WW2

[Toffey]

Yeah, a real darling, that one.
A racist, a bigot in general and his ideology is an interesting mix between fascism, nationalism, chauvinism and conservatism.

Maybe he just has an elaborate death wish, wherein the Nazis conquered Russia and killed his grandparents, so that he was never born.
Because really, how the hell can a Slav wish the Nazis had won?

 

[Duke Daniel Milutin]

The funny thing is that Slavs aren't even a race. My ancestors lived on a territory occupied by Germans and none of them died. And what are the chances that they would die during peace if they survived the war?

 

[Nahkuri]

Well the Krauts seemed to think otherwise, especially those affiliated with the party. I'm guessing your ancestors were lucky and/or smart.

 

[FrisianDude]

He's scum.

No wonder, considering his name. Hyuck hyuck.

All wars are the same. The perception with which we enter them is not.

That makes no sense at all in any way possible. No wars are the same; every war is unique.

Holy **** @ Milutin.

 

[AWdeV]

Meh, Napoleon had the right idea:

What then is, generally speaking, the truth of history? A fable agreed upon.

Even though it's apparently not a phrase he came up with, but still...

Everyone agrees with the fable that he came up with it.

 

[Duke Daniel Milutin]

Well the Krauts seemed to think otherwise, especially those affiliated with the party. I'm guessing your ancestors were lucky and/or smart.

That is just silly Allied propaganda. You had to be a communist or a saboteur to be killed just out of the blue.

 

[Wellenbrecher]

Or a Jew. Or Polish and part of the Intelligentsia. Or unlucky enough to live in a village that's close to where a partisan attack occurred.

 

[Duke Daniel Milutin]

Or unlucky enough to live in a village that's close to where a partisan attack occurred.

That's exactly where my great-grandfathers lived, and only the partisans were killed. The point is that they didn't get killed from being a Slav.

 

[Wellenbrecher]

I was talking about revenge killings, you stupid ****.
Lidice and **** like that. Happened in the glorious motherland as well.

 

[Duke Daniel Milutin]

I was talking about revenge killings, you stupid ****.
Lidice and **** like that. Happened in the glorious motherland as well.

Revenge killings could happen to "Aryans" as well, which just proves my point 

 

[Wellenbrecher]

No. No it really doesn't.
Your point was that:

You had to be a communist or a saboteur to be killed just out of the blue.

Which is bull****.

 

[Duke Daniel Milutin]

My point was that none got killed just for being a Slav.

 

[Wellenbrecher]

Then you should probably write that.
And one could still argue against that. You know, destruction through excessive amounts of work, as they did with the Red Army POWs could count as deliberately killing people because they're from inferior race and this not worth a humane treatment, for example in comparison to US or British POWs.

 

[Duke Daniel Milutin]

Well that's odd, because my great-grandmas brother got treatment in a hospital in Germany after losing his foot on the Eastfront. The britality on the Eastfront was larger because it's where the main battle actually were. At the last years of the war over 90% of German armed forces were on the Eastfront. The other places the goal was to just occupy the countries, even though there was many "inferior" people there, like Nord Africans, Latins and Muslims. The goal on Eastfront was to defeat communism, and therefore all partisans, commisars, political leaders and other Soviet patriots/socialists must die, so everyone could see what you get for being a commie.

 

[Seff]

The Nazi ideology is not excused just because those exercising it weren't always ruthless enough to see it through to the end. It's still a ****ty ideology.

Nahkuri: When were these memoirs written? Any chance they were propaganda, either WWII or Cold War era?

 

[Nahkuri]

The Nazi ideology is not excused just because those exercising it weren't always ruthless enough to see it through to the end. It's still a ****ty ideology.

Nahkuri: When were these memoirs written? Any chance they were propaganda, either WWII or Cold War era?

IIRC he letters of the soviet soldiers were written during/after the war, but they could've been interview bits as well. It's been quite a while since I read the book. Anyroad, I doubt that it's propaganda. The book was made by a couple of Russian historians, and a big number of the soldiers are saying that the whole war was a gigantic ****up. Some write about being young and naïve about the whole thing and genuinely believing that they were liberating their fellow proletariats from the capitalist oppression and being genuinely surprised when they met fierce resistance and villages that had been abandoned and whatever wasn't burned down was quite likely booby trapped. Others write about how they were given absolutely **** equipment that didn't protect them from the cold at all, and how their leaders were completely and utterly incompetent. Then there's some who talk about how the Finns could be ridiculously cruel in their fighting and how he hated their guts.

 

[Seff]

Fairy nuff.

 

[Baron Conrad]

Soldiers on all sides of all fronts commit brutality. There is no "good" or "bad" side.

Just read memoir written by an American who watched his buddy taking gold teeth from a prisoner. Of course, the long extended periods of stress and exhaustion make people do things they wouldn't normally do. The more memoirs I read, it just gets more and more disgusting.