Mein Kampf

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clayton117

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Anybody else reading this at the moment perhaps?
Havent met too many people interested in it these days.

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Isn't it illegal to read in Germany? I've been surprised that there was even a book that was illegal to read here, and especially that it wasn't in fact Mein Kampf that was illegal :razz:
 
Not exactly "illegal" , but hard to get your hands on a copy. Most libraries dont have it and its immpossible to find anywhere except online.
Also you get some pretty hefty charges raked against you if you comment a crime , and police find out you've been reading it
 
Well if you can get past the racial comments of the book , its actually genius. He explains alot of innovations he and his scientist invented.
 
Have you studied the society he made upon these principles? It didn't exactly work out perfectly - at least not if you want to be somewhat free.
 
Actually, I think Hitler was a great politician, just too ambitious and racist. He was an excellent orator and motivator though, and he created thousands of new job opportunities, and freed up a bunch of others.
 
My teacher told us about some really old guy who lived in the house next to his (he was German) and the old guy would always tell our teacher stories about how great Hitler was.
 
I don't know how great Hitler was but he was a genius. I'd prefer he had won the war. Might have something to do with the fact that Hitler would have 'wanted' me or that Finland and Germany were brothers in arms. But most importantly, communism was a greater threat than nazism ever would have been.
 
To who? Not to the Jews, that's for sure  :roll:. I suspect the Polish and French might have a different perspective, too.
 
UnholyNighmare said:
I don't know how great Hitler was but he was a genius. I'd prefer he had won the war. Might have something to do with the fact that Hitler would have 'wanted' me or that Finland and Germany were brothers in arms. But most importantly, communism was a greater threat than nazism ever would have been.

Eh?

USSR = Oppress everyone to a certain degree

Germany = Everyone east of the Oder river must DIE along with every non Aryan west of it.
 
UnholyNighmare said:
But most importantly, communism was a greater threat than nazism ever would have been.

And how is that? Nazis would have not been satisfied with just threatning people like the Soviet Union. There would have been much more war. I'm not even that certain Finland would have been left alone. We might not have been radical enough for Hitler.

An4Sh said:
Germany = Everyone east of the Oder river must DIE along with every non Aryan west of it.

Death wasn't the only option. They would have enslaved some too.
 
UnholyNighmare said:
I don't know how great Hitler was but he was a genius. I'd prefer he had won the war. Might have something to do with the fact that Hitler would have 'wanted' me or that Finland and Germany were brothers in arms. But most importantly, communism was a greater threat than nazism ever would have been.

The Soviet Union wasn't so much a Marxist country as it was just a dictatorship using an ideology to control the greater population. One could argue that if you look at the policies Stalin had during his rule, along with whatever we know of him during this time, he aimed for socialism only in his country. He was not looking to continue the revolution, or to support it like Mao and some other communist leaders elsewhere.
In domestic practice they were little different barring the style of oppression each under took, you're just trading one dictatorship over the other, with Stalin, you have the advantage that the Soviet Union is so big, they're probably not going to target you personally if you keep quite. With Nazism, you're playing Russian roulette if they had managed to exterminate all the jews and were looking for new scape goats.
Also, they advanced womens' rights much faster than the west, although this was achieve mostly by knocking off the advantages the men were having compared to the women :lol:.
 
Archonsod said:
He was a lot like Thatcher to be honest.

Just replace Jews with coal miners.

I never looked at it that way. Can we burn Thatcher yet?

I own a copy on Mein Kampf. I've never really been able to get into it though.


Ronan said:
Death wasn't the only option. They would have enslaved some too.

And worked to death...
 
Ronan said:
UnholyNighmare said:
But most importantly, communism was a greater threat than nazism ever would have been.

And how is that? Nazis would have not been satisfied with just threatning people like the Soviet Union. There would have been much more war. I'm not even that certain Finland would have been left alone. We might not have been radical enough for Hitler.
Hitler was old. He was born in the 19th century. The nazism rule would have falllen with him.

Swadius said:
One could argue that if you look at the policies Stalin had during his rule, along with whatever we know of him during this time, he aimed for socialism only in his country. He was not looking to continue the revolution, or to support it like Mao and some other communist leaders elsewhere.
With Nazism, you're playing Russian roulette if they had managed to exterminate all the jews and were looking for new scape goats.
Also, they advanced womens' rights much faster than the west, although this was achieve mostly by knocking off the advantages the men were having compared to the women :lol:.
No, not at all. The Soviet Union never qattacked eastern europe without a good reason...
Also, New Zealand and Finland were the first countries with 'womens' rights'. We werent commies. And with nazism, I think it would have fallen 10-20 years after the war if not with Hitler.
 
UnholyNighmare said:
I don't know how great Hitler was but he was a genius. I'd prefer he had won the war. Might have something to do with the fact that Hitler would have 'wanted' me or that Finland and Germany were brothers in arms. But most importantly, communism was a greater threat than nazism ever would have been.

Hey, **** you. Seriously. With a ten-foot pole. "I wanted the nazi's to win the war" why? Do you have something against ****ing intelligence? Freedom? Diversity? Humanity?

Goddamn, get over here so I can punch you. Communism wasn't a threat even, and the USSR had very little to do with communism.

UnholyNighmare said:
Hitler was old. He was born in the 19th century. The nazism rule would have falllen with him.
Except that had he survived the war he'd have probably sired (monstrously bigoted) children and he had enough (loopy) high officers that would succeed him and eachother when need be. He wanted it to last "a thousand years."
 
FrisianDude said:
UnholyNighmare said:
I don't know how great Hitler was but he was a genius. I'd prefer he had won the war. Might have something to do with the fact that Hitler would have 'wanted' me or that Finland and Germany were brothers in arms. But most importantly, communism was a greater threat than nazism ever would have been.

Hey, **** you. Seriously. With a ten-foot pole. "I wanted the nazi's to win the war" why? Do you have something against ****ing intelligence? Freedom? Diversity? Humanity?

Goddamn, get over here so I can punch you. Communism wasn't a threat even, and the USSR had very little to do with communism.

UnholyNighmare said:
Hitler was old. He was born in the 19th century. The nazism rule would have falllen with him.
Except that had he survived the war he'd have probably sired (monstrously bigoted) children and he had enough (loopy) high officers that would succeed him and eachother when need be. He wanted it to last "a thousand years."


Getting mad over a debate really shows your knowledge of the situation.



And to everybody who was commenting on the nazis policies with the war and how they treated jews , then i think you need to pick up the text books again.
Its a fact that the most brutal people in ww2 were the russians, they did not take prisoners , if they ever did it was just to torture them. Yes germans killed jews ,
but if you wanna get technical (no i am not a racist) , the Nazis killed the jews in a more orthodox and  pain free way. Tell me , when would you rather be tortured
by the russains , or gassed and die painlessly from the germans?


Oh , and if Nazi Germany would have won , for anyone who has read Mein Kampf , hitler would NOT have started war with any other country , hitler did not  want war in the first place. All he wanted was europe , and to take it without opposition becuase he didnt want his aryans to die. So if hitler would have won the war , then today it would just be Nazi Europe , he would have never taken on the world , or even the U.S. for that
 
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