Medieval naval fleets

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One question I want to ask is how many ships composed a typical medieval-era naval fleet. AFAIK most modern fleets are composed of a handful of missile destroyers along with a few submarines and one or two aircraft careers, with a supplement of logistics support ships. I believe medieval fleets will differ very much in scale. Any approximation in their size?
 
Well, depends on what region your talking about, and time period (late, high, early medieval eras, etc.). If your talking about Northern Europe, their fleets tend to be a bit smaller than in Southern Europe and the Mediterranian. In the late/rennassaince period, in the Med, there were a few sea battles consisting of hundreds of ships, an example of this being at Lepanto. But I believe you need to go into more detail for this question to be answered accuratly.
 
Battle of the Helgeå (1026) - 600 Danish ships and 480 Swedish/Norwegian ships
Battle of Sluys (1340) - 250 English ships and 190 French ships
Battle of Lepanto (1571, technically not the Middle Ages) - 280 Christian ships and 217 Ottoman ships

Large-scale naval battles were rare in the Middle Ages because ships were used to transport men and supplies rather than fight one another.  Most naval engagement had fewer than a hundred ships on both sides.  During the Viking Age the Norse had uncontested control of the seas, and the Byzantines and Venetians policed the Mediterranean.
 
CountArtha said:
Battle of the Helgeå (1026) - 600 Danish ships and 480 Swedish/Norwegian ships
Battle of Sluys (1340) - 250 English ships and 190 French ships
Battle of Lepanto (1571, technically not the Middle Ages) - 280 Christian ships and 217 Ottoman ships

Large-scale naval battles were rare in the Middle Ages because ships were used to transport men and supplies rather than fight one another.  Most naval engagement had fewer than a hundred ships on both sides.  During the Viking Age the Norse had uncontested control of the seas, and the Byzantines and Venetians policed the Mediterranean.

Well, not the Venetians, as they still had their Pirate problem, but still.

And how come I never heard of the first two?? Curse you history book, you have failed me again!
 
And the type of ships is different too. In the mediterean sea, there were galley-like ships with oars 'n that., very narrow and mostly had three sails

In the northern regions of europe (france, netherlands, germany, england , etc..) they used carracks and caravels
 
Hietala said:
And the type of ships is different too. In the mediterean sea, there were galley-like ships with oars 'n that., very narrow and mostly had three sails

In the northern regions of europe (france, netherlands, germany, england , etc..) they used carracks and caravels

Well, they used those in the late/rennassaince years. It hadn't been invented till the 15 hundreds. Rather, for awhile, they used cogs, hulks, longboats, merchant ships... anything they could get their hands on, as most focused less on battles at sea as they did putting their resources to their wars on land. This is, because, frankly, their ships during most of the era weren't that great. They could carry troops and resources, aye, but when it came to battle... eh, they didn't perform so well.
 
Tiberius Decimus Maximus said:
Hietala said:
And the type of ships is different too. In the mediterean sea, there were galley-like ships with oars 'n that., very narrow and mostly had three sails

In the northern regions of europe (france, netherlands, germany, england , etc..) they used carracks and caravels

Well, they used those in the late/rennassaince years. It hadn't been invented till the 15 hundreds. Rather, for awhile, they used cogs, hulks, longboats, merchant ships... anything they could get their hands on, as most focused less on battles at sea as they did putting their resources to their wars on land. This is, because, frankly, their ships during most of the era weren't that great. They could carry troops and resources, aye, but when it came to battle... eh, they didn't perform so well.
i think the ships in the Northern regions might've sucked (except those viking drakars, these were the first to cross the atlantic and that says something) But in the mediterean, the italians were trading with each other and southern france (like the provence) and those things. Also they had to hold off muslims who also had access to the mediterrean.
And i guess the byzantines had a great navy at those days, and they used ships that resembled like quadriremes/galleys --> that influenced the 15th century mediterean galleys
 
Tiberius Decimus Maximus said:
Well, Byzantine ships are more of a marriage between galleys, and the muslim dhow.
aghhhh, you know what? i'll take one of those fletcher2 class destroyers >< that will show 'em
 
Tiberius Decimus Maximus said:
Well, they used those in the late/rennassaince years. It hadn't been invented till the 15 hundreds. Rather, for awhile, they used cogs, hulks, longboats, merchant ships... anything they could get their hands on, as most focused less on battles at sea as they did putting their resources to their wars on land. This is, because, frankly, their ships during most of the era weren't that great. They could carry troops and resources, aye, but when it came to battle... eh, they didn't perform so well.

It's actually more to do with sailing conditions in the Mediterranean as opposed to say the North Sea. Enclosed seas such as the Med, Baltic and Black tend to be much calmer with far more predictable tides and winds than vast open seas such as the North or Atlantic. Try taking a galley into an open sea and it'll be sunk in the first squall.

Northern Europe saw plenty of Naval conflict, in fact it's the first theatre where cannon were used over boarding, again likely due to the sailing conditions. Difference is, they didn't have an organised navy.
 
As regards the original question, fleets do vary widely in size. A typical fleet from the War of the Vespers in the Mediterranean, one of the most important predominantly naval conflicts, might have been a couple of dozen galleys with 200 men each. Each fleet at the Battle of Sluys, part of the Hundred Years' War, probably consisted of 200-300 sailing ships (in this case, mostly cogs) with an average of several dozen men each.


It's actually more to do with sailing conditions in the Mediterranean as opposed to say the North Sea. Enclosed seas such as the Med, Baltic and Black tend to be much calmer with far more predictable tides and winds than vast open seas such as the North or Atlantic. Try taking a galley into an open sea and it'll be sunk in the first squall.

Not entirely true. England built galleys in the 13th and 14th century. France deployed galleys in Boulogne in 1339 and had Genoese galleys at Brest in 1342. Also, Viking longships are very similar to Mediterranean galleys, and have very low freeboard, yet they managed to ply the northern seas very regularly.

My impression is that any power in either the Atlantic or the Mediterranean which was serious about seapower and could afford to do so built galleys, up until the late 14th/early 15th century. Oared ships are much more maneuverable, and they usually carried significantly more men.

Also, a galley fleet can beach. This means that it can act in coordination with a besieging army to cut off a city from the sea.

Finally, although a galley has to worry about low freeboard, it does have one advantage if bad weather is brewing -- it can seek shelter much more easily, both because it can beach itself and because it can row against the wind.

However, oared ships are expensive, because you need rowers. They have smaller cargo capacity, because they need to be low to the water to be rowed efficiently. They have a more restricted cruising range, because they need to put into shore for water every couple of days, or even more frequently if the rowers are exerting themselves.

Wooden ships rot, so if they're not paying for themselves by running cargo, the cost of maintaining a fleet can really add up. Even though England built galleys, I'm not sure if they were ever used in battle -- probably they rotted before they were useful, or the trained rowers needed to man them wandered off because their pay was in arrears, or because of some other typical medieval snafu.

Things seem to change a bit in the 15th century as medieval shipwrights started to be able to build some really vast watercraft, like Henry V's Grace Dieu, that would have been very difficult to attack with a low-lying galley. However, these warships would also have a hard time attacking a galley, because it could just maneuver out of range. Cannon do not seem to have factored into ship design until fairly late, although no doubt they were mounted.

Galleys seem to die out in the Atlantic after 1400, although they persist in the Med as the premiere warship until the early 17th century. You also find them in the Baltic and even in the Great Lakes until the 19th century. So clearly rough seas are a factor, but not the only factor, in determining whether or not a given navy opts for galleys versus sailing ships. Technology and the economy also make a difference.


If you're interested in design, a typical Mediterranean warship would probably be classed as a bireme by the ancients. It is very low to the water (half a meter at midships, plus a railing) which makes it much more efficient than most ancient ships. So, a medieval galley can carry 200 men of whom 100 are rowers, and because they're all one one deck they can double as marines. A Greek trireme has 170 rowers and only 30 marines, and the rowers are below deck.

Medieval hulls were more flexible than ancient hulls and thus probably impervious to ramming, so instead ships mount a "spur" (like a ram above the waterline) that can be used to crush the oars and possibly the railing to make for easier boarding. Although they are very low to the water amidships, they can probably mount a small "castle" at the prow and stern to make up for the height disadvantage. Your standard galley would probably have two main lateen (triangular) sails, which I think would be taken down and stowed for battle.

Byzantine_dromon_reconstruction.png


This is a good reconstruction of a dromon from around the 9th century, taken from John Pryor's Age of the Dromon via Wiki. Unlike a medieval galley it has one bank of oars below decks, which would make it a bit slower albeit somewhat higher out of the water.

This reconstruction has a Greek fire siphon mounted at the prow. Greek fire was a scary weapon but it's actual performance in historical sea battles was pretty hit-and-miss. Maybe wind conditions had to be just right before it was used. Consequently, other nations might have opted to skip the incendiaries and mount towers on the prow instead.

People still dropped all kinds of things on each other's decks, including slippy stuff used to make the enemy lose their footing. Uneven footing makes a big difference in naval battles, and probably gives the advantage to somewhat more lightly armored troops. Missile fire seems also to have been as or more effective as a melee advantage, with Catalan crossbowmen and English archers both seeming to be particularly valuable at sea.


Difference is, they didn't have an organised navy.

That is the key difference between northern and Mediterranean naval warfare. England and France did have organized galley fleets, but they were very small, and seem not to have been available when they were needed.

A galley fleet is expensive to maintain. It can only pay for itself in time of peace if the values of cargos was very high, and the risk also very high.

The average profit from a northern voyage transporting beer, grain, or some similar commodity was 25 percent. The average profit from a Mediterranean voyage carrying spice from Alexandria could be as high as 100 to 150 percent. Thus, it made sense to take the latter in a swift galley or convoy of galleys -- and it made sense for another power to try to intercept that spice convoy.

In other words, richer seas sustain more expensive fleets.

The same phenomenon helps explain why Baltic cities formed a league (the Hansa) while Mediterranean cities competed so vigorously against each other.

(Source, Hendrik Spruyt, The Sovereign State and its Competitors)

I've been reading a lot about naval warfare recently, and I'll try to post a summary of my observations at some point.

In the meantime, if anyone wants to read about galley warfare in a M&B-like time period, I highly recommend wiking/googling Roger of Lauria, one of the medieval world's most celebrated admirals.
 
nijis said:
Not entirely true. England built galleys in the 13th and 14th century. France deployed galleys in Boulogne in 1339 and had Genoese galleys at Brest in 1342.
France and England both utilised them in the Channel. All coastal nations would have galleys to some extent; until the invention of the tugboat they're often the only means of getting a sailing boat into the harbour during a contrary wind. England (and I suspect France too) also utilised galleys as gunboats for port defences; the oar power lets you field much bigger guns than you could on a sailing ship (although that being said, they were usually rowed or towed out to some strategic point and left to rot as a gun platform).
Also, Viking longships are very similar to Mediterranean galleys, and have very low freeboard, yet they managed to ply the northern seas very regularly.
They're incredibly different from a ship building perspective! Height of the deck isn't that important to seaworthiness; at least when building from timber. The important thing about wood is it has a natural tendency to float,and it takes a considerable amount of weight on board before it will sink; something easily prevented by a basic pump or drainage system. The only real problem of a low deck is it tends to make it uncomfortable for the crew.
  In terms of a galley versus a longboat, the main difference is in the hull construction and shape. Longboats utilised clinker techniques on a frame, which gave them strength and flexibility. This is important in the open sea since it allows the hull to bend slightly in response to being hit by a wave; out on an open ocean even a brisk breeze can cause waves powerful enough to turn a wooden boat into so many chopsticks. Shape is also a factor, longboats had a curved hull while galley hulls need a flat section to accomodate the oars and rowers (particularly if there's more than one oar bank). It's a problem if caught side on by a wave, being able to roll means the ship can be pushed (often to within a few inches of being vertical to the waterline) by a wave and still right itself. The higher the side, the better this ability becomes. There's also all kinds of factors regarding the shaping of the prow and stern, the difference between flat and curved bottom hulls and a host of other stuff that contributes.
The other problem galleys had was that while they increased length (and in some cases height), they never really increased width. This compromises the ships hull strength something chronic, making it more than possible for the ship to actually be snapped in half in a choppy sea.
Also, a galley fleet can beach. This means that it can act in coordination with a besieging army to cut off a city from the sea.
Sail boats can. In fact, any sea going wooden vessel needs to be capable of beaching. As it sails kelp, barnacles and weeds build up on the underside of the hull which increase the drag in the water, lowering speed. There are also hundreds of species of worm, parasite and similar which will infest and (eventually) eat through the hull. Any sea going vessel would regularly need to be beached in order to have the detritus scraped from the hull and the timber inspected for rot or worm infestation. Naturally, this was  more of a problem in the open sea rather than somewhere like the Med, where you have plenty of islands you can use for such maintenance.
it can seek shelter much more easily, both because it can beach itself and because it can row against the wind.
It's only really a problem for galleys in the first place. For sailing ships the main risk of a storm is having the sails or mast damaged due to the wind. In larger vessels capsizing can be a worry in extreme conditions, but pointing the prow into the wave direction tends to prevent that. Really, storms are mainly a threat only to vessels close to the shore, and that largely down to the risk of being smashed onto sandbanks, rocks or the shore itself.
 
*reads two walls of text on medieval military history rapturously*

Can I marry these forums, please?

I'm hesitant to try to contribute to this debate, but I do have a question. I've read that when the Vikings fought at sea, it was for the most part pretty much like a land battle, in that they would bring their ships alongside each other and board, rather than engaging in any significant amount of ranged fire. If that's true, would this mode of combat have continued until the development of cannon, or did naval battles in the Middle Ages involve more of the ... ahh, shooty stuff with arrows?
 
Boarding continued until the end of the Age of Sail, well after the development of cannons.

One of those two De facto historians can explain better.
 
Well, while not technically in medieval ages, the battle of Lepanto still showcases the importance of boarding during a sea battle. Cannons were used to weaken the enemy somewhat, but boarding would still be one of the more important parts of a battle at sea.

Also, sea battles tended to be confusing, as illustrated by this:
lepanto.jpg

Don't look at it too long, or you'll get a headache, or something of the sort.
 
Tiberius Decimus Maximus said:
Cloud Breaker said:
Boarding continued until the end of the Age of Sail, well after the development of cannons.

One of those two De facto historians can explain better.
Well, while not technically in medieval ages, the battle of Lepanto still showcases the importance of boarding during a sea battle. Cannons were used to weaken the enemy somewhat, but boarding would still be one of the more important parts of a battle at sea.

Also, sea battles tended to be confusing, as illustrated by this:
lepanto.jpg

Don't look at it too long, or you'll get a headache, or something of the sort.

Lepanto was the last major battle where boarding was critical, but even in that battle there was a glimpse at the future of naval warfare: The Venetian contribution to the Christian fleet included six galleasses, a transitional ship type between the galley and the man-o-war.  A galleass had three masts and a full gun deck, usually above the oarsmen.  Galleasses were somewhat slower than the galleys because they had fewer oars (about 30) and relied partly on their sails, the winds in the Mediterranean being somewhat fickle.  Still, they carried artillery and had far greater firepower than the galleys – in the battle’s opening moments, the Turks saw the galleasses' masts and attacked them thinking they were supply vessels.  They lost 70 galleys - a third of their fleet - to the galeasses’ broadsides before close action had even begun.

At the Battle of Gravelines in 1588 (the one with the Invincible Armada), the English used the superior sailing qualities and gunnery on their vessels to defeat the Spanish.  The English had made a major innovation that proved critical - their guns were mounted on wheeled carriages and could be pulled inboard for reloading.  The Spanish ships' guns were bolted to the deck and were not only hazardous to reload (most of the sunken wrecks of the Spanish Armada still have most of their shot stored below, having fired each gun only once), but the force of each cannon was transferred to the decks and hull.  Some ships were literally pulled apart by the recoil from their own guns.

Long story short, after the English beat the Spanish Armada ships were designed around their guns and boarding was no longer the tactical focus.  Gunners and sailors began to outnumber marines on crews, and the line ahead formation had been adopted by every European navy by 1650.  From the Anglo-Dutch Wars right up to Trafalgar, ships never closed to boarding action but instead cruised past each other in slow, stately procession.

That's modern naval history, of course.  In the Middle Ages you had pretty much the same deal as Lepanto: lash the ships together and hope you have more soldiers aboard than the other guy.
 
Ironfounderson said:
I'm hesitant to try to contribute to this debate, but I do have a question. I've read that when the Vikings fought at sea, it was for the most part pretty much like a land battle, in that they would bring their ships alongside each other and board, rather than engaging in any significant amount of ranged fire. If that's true, would this mode of combat have continued until the development of cannon, or did naval battles in the Middle Ages involve more of the ... ahh, shooty stuff with arrows?
Boarding remained important. Wooden sailing ships are actually incredibly hard to sink through firepower alone, and when explosive shells were developed (which can sink wooden ships quite easily) it was rapidly followed with ironclads (which require armour penetrating shells). It's not really until the late 19th century that boarding as the primary means of combat went into decline. Even then, the main reason we don't see it very often nowadays is because naval engagements occur with both fleets several miles apart; though boarding actions are still a fairly common part of the war on drugs.
 
France and England both utilised them in the Channel. All coastal nations would have galleys to some extent; until the invention of the tugboat they're often the only means of getting a sailing boat into the harbour during a contrary wind.

Pretty sure these were war galleys -- will check sources. You wouldn't hire proto-tugboats to come up from Genoa. Also, if the ships are docked at Brest, they probably aren't used just for Channel defense.

The main difference is in the hull construction and shape. Longboats utilised clinker techniques on a frame, which gave them strength and flexibility.

I don't know hydrodynamics terribly well, but medieval galleys were not Greek triremes. They were built frame-first starting around the 6th century or so.

However, Rome deployed fleets to defend the British coastline that I seem to recall were liburnians, although I don't have a source on that, so maybe even older galleys constructed shell-first were deployable.

Longboats had a curved hull while galley hulls need a flat section to accomodate the oars and rowers (particularly if there's more than one oar bank).

Longboats also must accomodate rowers. While Byzantine dromons had two banks, galeas -- like longboats -- had all the oarsmen on the top deck.


The other problem galleys had was that while they increased length (and in some cases height), they never really increased width. This compromises the ships hull strength something chronic, making it more than possible for the ship to actually be snapped in half in a choppy sea.

Again, these aren't triremes. The 13th century galleys of Charles of Anjou were just under 40m long and had just under a 4.6m beam (on the deck -- "wale to wale" it's 3.6m), compared to 30m length and 3.8 beam for a typical large longship (Skuldelev 2, in this case).

Deck to keel, the height of the galley is 2.04m. I don't have similar figures for the longship, but the shape of a longship and the shape of an Angevin galley as reconstructed by Pryor don't look all that much different. Unless the Vikings had some shipbuilding secret unknown to anyone else, I don't see why a galley couldn't be built to the same specs -- after all, both are single-decked, rowed shallow-draft vessels of about 30-40m and 50 to 100 oars.


Sail boats can. In fact, any sea going wooden vessel needs to be capable of beaching.

I never heard of a cog or a similar vessel beaching for the night. A galley can basically be rowed onto a beach, then row off the next day. My impression is that in order to careen a sailing vessel, to get the maritime gunk off as you describe, you need to drag it up on a frame.


Galleasses were somewhat slower than the galleys because they had fewer oars (about 30) and relied partly on their sails, the winds in the Mediterranean being somewhat fickle.  Still, they carried artillery and had far greater firepower than the galleys – in the battle’s opening moments, the Turks saw the galleasses' masts and attacked them thinking they were supply vessels.  They lost 70 galleys - a third of their fleet - to the galeasses’ broadsides before close action had even begun.

I think the figure of 70 galleys lost to six galleasses is highly debatable. If you got it from Victor Davis Hanson, I'd take it with a major dollop of salt. Hugh Bicheno, who did a recent study of Lepanto, suggests that the galleasses' contribution was pretty slight, and that the decisive factor in Lepanto was not technological but human -- the skilled Spanish infantry. The Venetians contributed the galleasses, so they may have dramatically played up their effect.

One misconception about Renaissance galleys is that they had significantly less firepower than sailing ships. A large "lantern" galley could mount a 50-pound cannon -- a very, very big gun by the standards of the time -- plus six smaller pieces. That's maybe over 100 pounds weight of metal for a 180-ton ship with a crew of 260 or so. I can't find figures for a 16th century galleon. A French 74 of the 18th century, in comparison, had about a 1000 pound broadside, but weighed 1,630 tons and had a crew of 700. So, pound for pound, a galley punches its weight (assuming it can keep its bow pointed at the enemy), although pound per man it's not terribly efficient. In terms of defense against cannon fire, a galley is probably more fragile then a sailing ship, but it's also low in the water and harder to hit.


In the Middle Ages you had pretty much the same deal as Lepanto: lash the ships together and hope you have more soldiers aboard than the other guy.

There's much, much more to it than that. Ships -- particularly sailing ships -- are sluggish beasts, and there's lots of room for good seamanship. You can gang up on one ship with several others. You can smash a galley amidships with your prow and get a boarding advantage from the height of a fore-mounted castle and the shock of impact.

If maneuver did not count in naval battles, then the great medieval maritime powers would have built larger, taller ships to have a height advantage. Instead, they did the opposite -- they built galleys lower and lower to the water for speed.


 
nijis said:
Pretty sure these were war galleys -- will check sources.
They were used as harbour defence, primarily as a means of delivering men. Haven't read anything about them seeing use on the seas.
I don't know hydrodynamics terribly well, but medieval galleys were not Greek triremes. They were built frame-first starting around the 6th century or so.
It's the clinker, not the frame. It allows the hull to flex without breaching and focuses the weight of the ship on the spine, increasing stability and (to an extent) strength.
Again, these aren't triremes.
It applies to any vessel with a long length and a narrow width. It's remarkably easy for them to be overturned, and places huge stress on the centre of the vessel during a storm. If not sufficiently braced then it can literally be torn apart (it's particularly a problem for ships with a mast, though I'm not sure how much force the mast of a galley would face, though I assume the crew could drop the sail altogether and power on oars alone if necessary).
I don't see why a galley couldn't be built to the same specs -- after all, both are single-decked, rowed shallow-draft vessels of about 30-40m and 50 to 100 oars.
In theory there'd be nothing stopping you building a clinker galley. In practice it doesn't appear to have been adopted within South Europe. China also used clinker building, so I don't think it was something which never occurred to them; possibly it was related to the amount of wood involved?
I never heard of a cog or a similar vessel beaching for the night. A galley can basically be rowed onto a beach, then row off the next day. My impression is that in order to careen a sailing vessel, to get the maritime gunk off as you describe, you need to drag it up on a frame.
No, though frames make it easier (it's not too hard to build one either if there's sufficient trees nearby). You just need to get access to the hull. In later era's crew would often be lowered over the side to scrape off what they could while still at sea, but drydock or similar facilities were needed to do a thorough careening.
  Cogs and the like didn't need to beach for the night. Galleys traditionally were cramped at the best of times, and lacked sufficient room for a galley (as in the kitchen, not a smaller boat), so beaching was an opportunity for the preparation of hot food and to give the crew room to stretch.  Cogs on the other hand were far more spacious with far fewer crew, and didn't need to give it's sail a good night's sleep to be able to move in the morning :lol: I'd also expect most galleys would want to be beached, or at least anchored in a sheltered harbour overnight; I doubt they'd have enough crew to keep the ship manned on a 24 hour basis, and leaving the ship in open water while the crew was sleeping would be incredibly dangerous. Thanks to the requirements and space of sailing a cog carrying 'extra' crew for another one or two watches wasn't a problem, though their more robust construction would make sailing overnight generally safer, particularly out to sea (one of the main problem with galleys is they tend to stick close to the coast, where submerged rocks and sandbanks are a danger, both of which are hard to spot in the dark).
 
It applies to any vessel with a long length and a narrow width.

The Angevin galleys and longships had very similar dimensions.

In theory there'd be nothing stopping you building a clinker galley.

The English galleys were clinker-built, according to Ian Friel, "The Building of the Lyme Galley." Indeed, he says that it probably did have a "superficial" resemblance to a longship, including being double-sided.

JT Tinniswood ("English Galleys", 1272-1377) suggests that Atlantic galleys were different in design from Mediterranean galleys, although part of that was the shortage of oarsmen to man them.

They were used as harbour defence, primarily as a means of delivering men. Haven't read anything about them seeing use on the seas.

Well, a great deal of naval warfare in the medieval era was harbor/estuary attack and defense. Still, galleys -- even Mediterranean galleys -- seem to have more more than capable of crossing the spaces in between...

References to galleys in the Atlantic include...

1) Liburnians used to invade Britain
2) Roman warships of some sort used to defend the Saxon shore
3) Twenty-four galleys commissioned by Edward I in 1276 in Bayonne for use on Crusade (used in the Med, but they would have to sail around Spain to get there) (Timmison)
4) Twenty galleys commissioned in 1295, including a big 120-oar fellow, for use against the French. Only eight were built (Timmison)
5) A dozen others commissioned between 1295 and 1377, including one which sailed from York to Scotland (Timmison)
6) A Genoese trading galley arriving at Sluys in 1277 and a Venetian in 1314 (Wiki)
7. A Genoese-Castillian galley fleet destroyed at anchor before Sluys in 1339, with the implication being that it needed to be attacked before it could reinforce the French fleet gathering in the Sluys estuary
8.) A French galley fleet attacked and defeated at Brest in 1342
9) Galleys used by the Lords of the Isles (Wiki)
10) A brief reference to galleys used by the Danes in 1304 (Wiki)
11) A Florentine great galley left Southampton on 23 February 1430 and returned to its port at Pisa in 32 days. They were so safe that merchandise was often not insured (Michael E. Mallett, The Florentine Galleys in the Fifteenth Century, via Wiki)
12) Four galleys used in the Spanish Armada, and one galley used against the Armada

So again, I think there is ample evidence that galleys could move about in the Atlantic fairly safely, subject to the normal parameters for galley movement -- ie, short hops between land.
 
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