make town sieges multi-staged{ posted by Nahkuri} [MOVED]

[pierne93]

I realize this is probably too late to actually have an effect in the game development, but I'm gonna write it down anyway to kill some time and to see what other people think about it.

When I first heard that town sieges had been introduced to the game, I started squirming in excitement and plotting a bank robbery that would get me some money for a decent enough computer to run any M&B version that came after .751. But when I took over a town for the first time, I couldn't help being a little disappointed. The castle sieges are alright as they are as far as I'm concerned, but  why do we use just 1/4 of all those beatiful town scenes in the actual gameplay(I don't consider running around them actual gameplay if you can access everything via menus as well) ?

So here's what we have.

-run up the ramp and kill stuff on the walls(and prey that your men will do that as well and not just watch the situation on top of the ramp, placing wagers on how many bad guys it takes to bring the boss down.)
-kill enemy reinforcements spawning below the walls.
-kill enemy reinforcements spawning below the walls.
-kill enemy reinforcements spawning below the walls.
-kill enemy reinforcements spawning below the walls.
-kill enemy blah blah blah.
-win the battle, ask for the town to be given to you.

A rough, unpolished idea of how the Town sieges should be done.

-run up the ramp and kill stuff on the walls(preferably without having to prey that your men will do that as well.)
-Kill two or three waves of enemy reinforcements consisting mostly of the higher tier troops that the town has.
-win the battle, have a screen pop up that would tell you something like: "You have captured the walls and enemy has retreated further into town. Now it's time to take the battle to the streets! Do you wish to 1. charge the enemy 2. wait for some time(maybe this option shouldn't exist/ would have a high chance of the enemy making a counter attack) 3. leave"

-Fight on the streets and push on forward towards the castle, killing  large waves of reinforcements that spawn closer and closer to the castle as you progress and that consist of random mix of troops the enemy has and maybe even townspeople, depending on how much the people love their lord/how much they hate you.
-win the battle, have a screen pop up that would tell you something like: "You have taken over the streets and the enemy lord has locked himself up in the castle with the remains of the defenders. Do you wish to 1. attack the castle. 2. wait for some time 3. leave

-Fight in the castle. This wouldn't be a big fight and the troops would be just whatever survived the wall and the streets + the lord and a few high tier troops acting as his guard. Maybe a new scene should be added to make things bit more interesting than fighting in a small room?
-Win the battle. Ask for the town to be given to you.

What do you think? Feel free to add to the idea as well, because it's just something that popped in my mind while I was playing and I wrote it as such.

Discuss.

posted by Nahkuri

That suggestion will make Legion mod the most played modle for Mount&Blade

A picture to show you :

 

[Red River]

don't know which game ya playin' but what ya described is already in

 

[pierne93]

don't know which game ya playin' but what ya described is already in

What is already in ?

 

[cool_guy]

that's quite the drawring you got there

i like the idea. much more realistic and complex. the first stage, the walls should have on them the bulk of the archers that the enemy has. after all those are taken out then come the high-tiers.

but it'd make sieges a lot more interesting.

 

[SPQR]

That picture rocks. 

 

[Lord_Kosmos]

Well I wonder, I thought multiple sieging was first introduced at 0.95X. Since this mod is still on 0.903. I am not 100 percent shue but then again I didn't siege a town for a long time now (last one was in the newest M&B version)

 

[Hockax]

don't know which game ya playin' but what ya described is already in

What is already in ?

The option that the lord and some of the troops has locked himself in the castle is in atleast. But i think it's just when you siege a town.
I like the three stage idea, it will be great to have some street fighting more extensive than a few bandits trying to rape you

 

[pierne93]

Well I wonder, I thought multiple sieging was first introduced at 0.95X. Since this mod is still on 0.903. I am not 100 percent shue but then again I didn't siege a town for a long time now (last one was in the newest M&B version)

Are you sure that is in a version of M&B(0.95X) but i'll very love it if it was on a version of Legions mod

 

[Lord_Kosmos]

Are you sure that is in a version of M&B(0.95X) but i'll very love it if it was on a version of Legions mod

Yep absolutely sure about that. If I attack a Town there is:

The outer Wall either with the defenders trying to break the siege with a fall out or just me attacking the perimeter

The City full of enemy troops

The Castle of the Lord with the remaining troops and the Lord

 

[Tercero]

yep but cities sieges are against 300 soldier i want to see those 3 staged siegues in a castle

 

[Red River]

yep but cities sieges are against 300 soldier i want to see those 3 staged siegues in a castle

castles can be 2 staged when there's enough troops left over. there's no streets in castles as such no street fightin' stage as in cities...

 

[pierne93]

I will move the post in the Massive Changes Ideas for Legion go see here

http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,38726.msg998690.html#msg998690