L'Outremer - submod

[othr]

The armour you showed, modified, was very popular among the Poles and Lithuanians in the 16th century, it got lighter later.  Search for winged hussar, too much Turk fighting and the influences are quite apparent.  Which brings me back to this idea of a 16th/17th century mod!

 

[Sahran]

The armour you showed, modified, was very popular among the Poles and Lithuanians in the 16th century, it got lighter later.  Search for winged hussar, too much Turk fighting and the influences are quite apparent.  Which brings me back to this idea of a 16th/17th century mod!

Speaking of the influence, I was surprised to learn the Poles actually had Janissaries. It was probably a novelty and not really a Janissary in anything other than floppy hat, but it's neat.

And include Safavids and I'll fight for your side, Othr. 

 

[othr]

Just Janissary style infantry in funky outfits.

 

[Dogukan]

The armour you showed, modified, was very popular among the Poles and Lithuanians in the 16th century, it got lighter later.  Search for winged hussar, too much Turk fighting and the influences are quite apparent.  Which brings me back to this idea of a 16th/17th century mod!

WHAT!?!?!!? After this you're gonna make a reneissance mod?!?!!?!?!?!!

 

[Pööukkeli]

I think reneissance mod would also be fun  Of course after ad1257 is "done". You have maps and features, all you need is weapons and armors

 

[kuauik]

i must also admit that a new mod after this would be fun,but i am againts the renesaince,i hate that period,i propose two : 18th century because the fancy colorful uniforms or 4th -7th century because of Sassanids

 

[Sahran]

i must also admit that a new mod after this would be fun,but i am againts the renesaince,i hate that period,i propose two : 18th century or 7th century

Age of False Innocence right now is multiplayer, but they seem well poised to cover the 18th century singleplayer wise. Although I think it would be interesting to have a singleplayer Gunpowder era. I think the only tricky thing there is if the AI has been able to control artillery pieces.

I like the idea of the 7th century from a Middle Eastern standpoint if you depict it right around the emergence of the Rashidun Caliphate in 632. You'd have Byzantium, Sassania Persia, the Rashidun Caliphate, the Visigoths, Lombards, Avars, the competition of Anglo-Saxons/Britons/Celts/Picts(?) in Great Britain, Khazars(?), Franks, continental Germanics...


To give a very rough idea of how the landscape would look, you can see it at:

The Start of the 7th century: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/East-Hem_600ad.jpg

The End of the 7th century: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/East-Hem_700ad.jpg

 

[kuauik]

i think the artillery is pretty useless in M&B

 

[othr]

Maybe when we finish what we started we can come up with something.  I hate plate armour, love Napoleonic era and the French, of course I'm biased because of my nationality.  Of course the mod would end up with overpowered uhlans.

16th century was nice though!  The steppes and the freedom http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3OpylRX53A, c'mooon Kuauik, that song's got to get your blood going

Anything modern (ie. WWI and so on just doesn't do it for me).  How about 1683, Siege of Vienna and the biggest cavalry charge known to man?

 

[DrTomas]

I also would like XVI-XVIIcentury mod as well as XIVcentury mod. :p

Dark ages is not realy apealing to me, but I could live with XVIII century mod.

 

[Sahran]

I get the impression anything non historical is out of the question. Although it's worth suggesting Hyboria, if any of you are familiar with Robert E Howard's Conan stuff. I have the books but haven't gotten to reading the tales yet, but it would offer a vast array of historical inspiration to draw on. Interpretations of what he had in mind for the proto-Europeans (Nemedia, Aquilonia and so on) range from bronze age to classical age to dark ages/medieval in style.

http://hyboria.xoth.net/races/human_races.htm

You'd have Vikings (Aesir, Vanir), Barbarians (picts, Cimmerians), steppe nomads (Hyrkanians, Turanians), either dark ages Europeans or Greco-Romans (Nemedia, Aquilonia, Koth), Egyptians (Stygia), Sub-Saharan Africans (All the various black kingdoms), Assyrians/Semites (Shem), "Saracens" (Iranistan).

But no history, so bear in mind I am just being a devil's advocate.

I think you couldn't do the 16th century without running into the risk of being late medieval with lobster plate and such, but the 17th century does have a very unique style all of it's own. If you go mid century you've got the Thirty Year's war, English Civil War, Ottoman silliness in the Balkans, Poland-Lithuanian, Muscovy.

I would suggest the Bronze age, be it Trojan War or in general, but there's already a few mods attempting it and resources can be rather tricky to find and harder still to draw ideas from.

 

[Dogukan]

Maybe when we finish what we started we can come up with something.  I hate plate armour, love Napoleonic era and the French, of course I'm biased because of my nationality.  Of course the mod would end up with overpowered uhlans.

16th century was nice though!  The steppes and the freedom http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3OpylRX53A, c'mooon Kuauik, that song's got to get your blood going

Anything modern (ie. WWI and so on just doesn't do it for me).  How about 1683, Siege of Vienna and the biggest cavalry charge known to man?

Exactly
Easy research, colorfull era, fun wars(except for cannon implemantation)
Though I would prefer early 1500s setting, when gunpowder is only recently becoming dominant and there are still lots of old fashioned fighting going on.

 

[kuauik]

Maybe when we finish what we started we can come up with something.  I hate plate armour, love Napoleonic era and the French, of course I'm biased because of my nationality.  Of course the mod would end up with overpowered uhlans.

16th century was nice though!  The steppes and the freedom http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3OpylRX53A, c'mooon Kuauik, that song's got to get your blood going

Anything modern (ie. WWI and so on just doesn't do it for me).  How about 1683, Siege of Vienna and the biggest cavalry charge known to man?

this is better song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkk_FQPR9Qc&feature=related

 

[ntb_15]

May i pitch in the idea of a quick AD 1180's spinoff before you delve into other timelines. I would love to fight in the era of Henry 2, Frederick barbarossa, philip 2, richard lionheart, saladin, andronikos komnenos and isaac 2 angelos. 

As for other timelines, my favourate would be a napoleonic era. Or going way back to Justinian 1. But sadly the firearms part of the game is not as developed as the melee/armor/horse combat.

 

[kuauik]

yes the 1180 is good idea.but focusing only on Holy land,the russian mod will be released in 2013 so i think we can have beatufull crusder mod,think of it,most of the equipment is done,its about the lords and settlements,there is no mod about crusaders and especially 3rd crusade

 

[Stinus]

17th century really needs some love. 18th century is filled up by the AOFI team (they are doing a great job)! But we need more 17th century goodiness!

 

[othr]

Maybe when we finish what we started we can come up with something.  I hate plate armour, love Napoleonic era and the French, of course I'm biased because of my nationality.  Of course the mod would end up with overpowered uhlans.

16th century was nice though!  The steppes and the freedom http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3OpylRX53A, c'mooon Kuauik, that song's got to get your blood going

Anything modern (ie. WWI and so on just doesn't do it for me).  How about 1683, Siege of Vienna and the biggest cavalry charge known to man?

this is better song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkk_FQPR9Qc&feature=related

March to the slaughterhouse, yessss!

 

[othr]

There is also 1410 or around that, still that would cover only Bohemia, Poland-Lithuania, Ruthenians and Teutons + foreign knights.  Czechs fought on the side of the Teutons did they not?

1180 also seems interesting but we'd have to focus solely on the Holy Land, I know I wouldn't attempt to cover an entire continent again.

Oh, yes, Conan the Barbarian stuff.  Cimmerians ftw!  If we could get our hands on the Conan the Barbarian MMO soundtrack I'd do it just for the music

 

[Sahran]

There is also 1410 or around that, still that would cover only Bohemia, Poland-Lithuania, Ruthenians and Teutons + foreign knights.  Czechs fought on the side of the Teutons did they not?

1180 also seems interesting but we'd have to focus solely on the Holy Land, I know I wouldn't attempt to cover an entire continent again.

Oh, yes, Conan the Barbarian stuff.  Cimmerians ftw!  If we could get our hands on the Conan the Barbarian MMO soundtrack I'd do it just for the music

1410 would put us square into the plate era though. If memory serves Kuauik hates plate, and you said you hate plate, and I hate plate too.  Everybody hates plate!

On the topic of narrowing the scope, other options could open up that otherwise wouldn't work:

The Taifa period for Iberia would be interesting (Al-Mansur would certainly like that). Set it in the late 11th century and you'd have El Cid, the arriving Almoravids, all the Taifa States and Iberian States. My worry would be a lack of good armor variety possibly.

You could do the Baltic Crusades region

You could go for the later Viking Era of England (Bryttenwald being the Anglo-Saxon Invasion period?)

You could go with Kuauik's 7th century idea and focus on the Middle East between Byzantium, Sassanids, Rashidun Caliphate, and possibly the Khazars or whomever was up in the steppe.

There is a Trojan war mod in development already, and it's a tricky area resource wise but that could be an exciting choice. You'd have to be creative with armor designs though, and accept a fair share of creative licensing since the reality was a bit dreary and generally lighter than you'd do. But it's got a wealth of information when it comes to NPC characters and locations and so on. Also the problem of chariots..

Although if you're willing to go creative and inventive, I think the Conan stuff would be better and offer a wider license. And no more nationalists begging for their faction to be added.


Just throwing out ideas, it's fun to!

 

[DrTomas]

Czechs fought on the side of the Teutons did they not?

I thought that Polish brought them as allies/merceneries?

I also like Conan. I've actualy grow up with conan cartoons (And talking about Conana mmo - I greatly enjoyed it). Bronze age is also interesting.

You could do the Baltic Crusades region

Actualy 1257 kinda grew from the Baltic region. So it would be like remaking 1257ad all over again