Thank you for the clear instructions much appreciate it! I am staying away from mods at least at this stage before the game is finished. If her appearance won't change in saves of the current version I think I take my chances and consider this option for a future new start.
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mrtoads
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I noticed on my last restart that some, but not all, of the lords look very different. Others look exactly the same. I'm not sure what this indicates, but it did change my marital choices..Do you mean that every time you start the new campaign on the same version of the game, the appearance of the Lords change randomly?
No problem.
As for DCC, it's rather lightweight. It isn't adding any new values to the game, just a way to modify values that ARE in the game, but have no sliders to change them. NPC faces follow the exact same pattern PC faces do, so, nothing new there either. To my understanding you shouldn't face any problems (no pun intended) with the save should you decide to use it and then delete it.
If you don't feel like messing with face editors right now, however, I'm sure someone is already making a mod to change faces back in one package. That's the benefit of having a moddable engine with a vibrant modder community on top of that xD.
To my knowledge, the NPC faces are normally set once and then never changed in an unmodded game. So while you stick to that save, the face should remain the same. Might be wrong about that though.
Some characters look better. Lucon and Pharon, two older imperial lords, look excellent. They look properly distinguished.
Not a big fan of the Ira changes. Those seem intentional -- she looks more like her mother. But her old, angular face looked more warlike. Now she has a ton of makeup, and that seems out of character.
Not a big fan of the Ira changes. Those seem intentional -- she looks more like her mother. But her old, angular face looked more warlike. Now she has a ton of makeup, and that seems out of character.
I don't expect much about npc preset from Bannerlord anymore because Taleworlds clearly downgraded character creation system. You can just look the npc designs from 2015-17 gameplay videos and then compare them with current ones. Especially the ones from PC Gamer 2016 Gameplay videos.
really hope they're not going to all end-up looking like beach Ken & Barbie-doll babes/hunks. I always imagine a war-maden to look ugly af....'cause she just doesn't give a ****
There is no plastic surgery in the Middle Ages
I have a feeling "not having plastic surgery" doesn't equate to "everyone had dead eyes, a melting Lego minifigure face, and a jaw the size of a 18-wheel truck". Can't say I know too much about Middle Ages to back that up though.
The dudes look mostly human on my save, the ladies don't. I'm not speaking modern beauty standarts here, I just don't think those face features are anatomically possible.
There seems to be an overreliance on the "face asymmetry" slider in the current npc face generator that makes most city notables look like melting chocolate bunnies. Creepy stuff.
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All of the Lords skills are ridiculously high compared to the player. We start with 0, they are rolling with 120, so leet.
Look at the Battanian women. Horrible faces now.
Lesbosisles
Knight at Arms
I'd love to sneak a peek, but i didn't start a new campaign and pay with old faces fur now
It's interesting how the nations of this game are basically the influences that have impacted Anatolia in its long history
Sturgian are Russian influence with a hint of Viking/Varangian influence down the Volga trade route, Azerai represent Middle Eastern inluence, Khuzaits represent the Steppe turks and others, the Empire represents Greco-Roman influence, and the vlandians represent Western Europe.
Sturgian are Russian influence with a hint of Viking/Varangian influence down the Volga trade route, Azerai represent Middle Eastern inluence, Khuzaits represent the Steppe turks and others, the Empire represents Greco-Roman influence, and the vlandians represent Western Europe.
See, that's anatomically possible asymmetry. It doesn't stem from one half of the face drifting away from the other on the vertical axis, like the person had been spending 12h a day in their childhood compressing their skull diagonally. Really the vibe I'm getting from random bannerlord faces.
Asymmetry is the norm in real human faces. Just not the kind we get to do with the character editor sliders
Just me who found the bannerlord design very cartoonized?
But seems the same of older lords. If clan leader has young sons they can add some brother or cousin with good stats. Few non combat ladies start with 100 charm and riding and zero everything else.
I think they just use some template to speed up the work, right now it count the position (clan leader with much skills) while the age is meaningless (some case like Caladog is justified by the lore that has higher skills for his age since he was a military genius against the emperor, other by gameplay because if your brother is weaker than you in tutorial he is useless).
They could give some final touch, for example this girl shouldn't be good with crossbow while Golden Boar guys shouldn't be good as her with a bow. Also Vlandia king should have worse combat skills than his lieutenants since lore says he isn't an action man.
I have that feeling, to an extent. Something about the eyes is off, I just can't put it into words yet. Probably the look of surprise every notable has 100% of the time.
I'm fine with that, though. Just can't get the "melt one half of the face off" slider out of my mind yet. xP
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I also like the new Abagai to be honest, not as good as her old version though, but the new Mesui looks like a ghost.
Edit: BTW, just did a quick check over other characters, it seems that Arwa changed a lot as well. And the new Top1 waifu character from Aserai is now Manan. So guess there is a lose but also there is a gain.
Also an interesting finding, that if you look at new Ira's skin color, it seems that she is half Aserai, so who was her real father? Unless the former emperor was an Aserai.
Edit: BTW, just did a quick check over other characters, it seems that Arwa changed a lot as well. And the new Top1 waifu character from Aserai is now Manan. So guess there is a lose but also there is a gain.
Also an interesting finding, that if you look at new Ira's skin color, it seems that she is half Aserai, so who was her real father? Unless the former emperor was an Aserai.
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firion66
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For me the decision to make characters more 'cartoonish' is one of the better they could make about their appearances.
Realistic style may seems better considering the 'brutal' medieval era, but then it makes characters less distinguishable from each other, therefore forgettable. It's known truth, that you'd recognize person faster when looking at caricature than seeing their fully realistic painting. And, when you compare Warcraft III and Oblivion answer which game looks better now (first one came out in 2003, second one in 2006). Oblivion tried to be realistic, and it was! Every reviewer was delighted by it's graphics!
But now Warcraft 3 still looks good (maybe little 'pointy') when Oblivion seems... shiny?
You may say: 'That makes them less serious! How can I swear oath to a Popeye?!'
Well...
Firstly: It's not Popeye cartoon level. It's more like CIV V level, which is halfway through being 'realistic' and 'cartoonish'.
Secondly: Look at 'The Walking Dead', 'Wolf Among Us' or other Telltale's games. Graphics there are much more stylized than on new lords' portraits but it didn't make those games feel less serious. Instead you had no problem telling who is who and you emotionally attached to characters with ease.
Thirdly: It gives them personality. Take any actor. They are real people, so they look realistic (no way!) but they can get into any role, have any personality, according to their role in the movie. But when you take Obelix' picture you instantly know who he is. Maybe you don't know, that he has some traumatic story with soup drowning, but you certainly see that he's good-hearted, likes eating and barbarian. Through more stylized images you can show at least half the things, that you'd must tell if you only had a photo.
Realistic style may seems better considering the 'brutal' medieval era, but then it makes characters less distinguishable from each other, therefore forgettable. It's known truth, that you'd recognize person faster when looking at caricature than seeing their fully realistic painting. And, when you compare Warcraft III and Oblivion answer which game looks better now (first one came out in 2003, second one in 2006). Oblivion tried to be realistic, and it was! Every reviewer was delighted by it's graphics!
But now Warcraft 3 still looks good (maybe little 'pointy') when Oblivion seems... shiny?
You may say: 'That makes them less serious! How can I swear oath to a Popeye?!'
Well...
Firstly: It's not Popeye cartoon level. It's more like CIV V level, which is halfway through being 'realistic' and 'cartoonish'.
Secondly: Look at 'The Walking Dead', 'Wolf Among Us' or other Telltale's games. Graphics there are much more stylized than on new lords' portraits but it didn't make those games feel less serious. Instead you had no problem telling who is who and you emotionally attached to characters with ease.
Thirdly: It gives them personality. Take any actor. They are real people, so they look realistic (no way!) but they can get into any role, have any personality, according to their role in the movie. But when you take Obelix' picture you instantly know who he is. Maybe you don't know, that he has some traumatic story with soup drowning, but you certainly see that he's good-hearted, likes eating and barbarian. Through more stylized images you can show at least half the things, that you'd must tell if you only had a photo.
