Lordly Plate Mail
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Lol it is not too difficult to find it but not too easy at begining, just wait 2 weeks in game time, and visit each shop in town, and surely one of them will contain a Lordly item.
Aure
Squire
Each item has a 'ratio' at which it appear in the shops. The Plate Mail has the smallest ratio, that means it is rarer then other items. The "Lordly" attribute, like the others (thick, rusty, reinforced etc), is given random to the items in the store. So yah, its pretty hard to find it.
Your level is also important. The higher your level the more chance you get of finding good items in the shop.
NJSQRL
Sergeant at Arms
Blead 说:
This explains alot to me...
I will spend months (ingame time obviously) if not years searching for a specific item (lordly winged helm for example) and the few times I do run across it I am usually too poor to afford it.
Then when I hit late game/high level and wealth where I generally stop looking in shops other than to replace a horse or buy food, yet every time I look in the shop... there it is.
Ludial
Knight at Arms
piercing and blunt damage do as much damage to armor as they need to. S'why I don't bother so much with armor. What I do is fight - the tougher my enemies, the better loot I get when I beat them. Having a coat of plates and pair of gauntlets on my loot screen is so much more satisfying than blowing a fortune on equipment(a fortune I could use to pay my soldiers). Not to mention that the loot you don't use you can sell. I don't really understand the whole thing with spending ridiculous amounts of money to buy trinkets.Wurmkrank 说:
I used to equip from loot too, but there's really not a lot you can do with your denars once you get enterprises in all the cities and the cash just starts piling up. Might as well spend that cash making your companions look badass, which is not always easy to do if you only equip from loot (lots of mismatched gear).
Congrats on finding it and being able to afford it in time. I found TWO sets in short order and couldn't scrape the money together to buy either. Then, when i was rolling with around 300K I couldn't find a suit until yesterday.
As for whether or not it's worth it to buy "lordly" adds 6 to defense, "reinforced" 4, and "thick" 2. When you compare the base price for a stock item to the price for each of those upgrades "lordly" takes a HUGE jump in price per defensive point so it is not a wise purchase without plenty of coin or paranoia to spare.
I know some people only equip from loot and some prefer shopping but I mix the two as I think most people do. The best equipment available will only be found in shops and not always for a price that will make you cringe so if you know what you want they are worth looking into. Personally, I only go shopping for the very best and everything else I supply from my loot. My companions are arranged so that my doctor gets the hand-me-downs from me that then pass to my scout, then tactician, then trader, then warriors. This way my most important skilled people (at the bottom of the fighting order too) always have the best I have been able to scrounge.
As for whether or not it's worth it to buy "lordly" adds 6 to defense, "reinforced" 4, and "thick" 2. When you compare the base price for a stock item to the price for each of those upgrades "lordly" takes a HUGE jump in price per defensive point so it is not a wise purchase without plenty of coin or paranoia to spare.
I know some people only equip from loot and some prefer shopping but I mix the two as I think most people do. The best equipment available will only be found in shops and not always for a price that will make you cringe so if you know what you want they are worth looking into. Personally, I only go shopping for the very best and everything else I supply from my loot. My companions are arranged so that my doctor gets the hand-me-downs from me that then pass to my scout, then tactician, then trader, then warriors. This way my most important skilled people (at the bottom of the fighting order too) always have the best I have been able to scrounge.
@Ludial, why not make sure you have plenty of money for both great armour and your soldiers? Money is the most important thing in this game, it is always my top priority. I am currently at a steady fortune of half a million without cheats, but I expect it will rise a lot since I just took all the Rhodok and Swadian towns for myself. It's amazing how much income in Tariffs they give, sometimes 8K per city.
I'm not sure why you wouldn't spend money on armor... It's not like there's a lot of other things to spend money on....
I spent the first few hundred days, trading, fighting bandits and wining tournaments... after I had a Dyeworks in every city, hit level 25 with 400+ renown did I even join a faction. So yeah, getting 8-9k a week is plenty to pay my troops... that's before I even own any real land at this point.
and yes, the "Lordly" armor is worth it, I'm effectively immortal to tier 1-3 and some tier 4 troops.
I spent the first few hundred days, trading, fighting bandits and wining tournaments... after I had a Dyeworks in every city, hit level 25 with 400+ renown did I even join a faction. So yeah, getting 8-9k a week is plenty to pay my troops... that's before I even own any real land at this point.
and yes, the "Lordly" armor is worth it, I'm effectively immortal to tier 1-3 and some tier 4 troops.
NJSQRL
Sergeant at Arms
Wurmkrank 说:
I have to agree... I mean sure early on wear your looted armor, as soon as I can I take on a few searaiders for this very purpose, great shields, the falchon or however its spelled is a great one handed weapon, nord helmets (usually in the high 30's to low 40's range) and their armor is half decent until you can afford better gear. Honestly the only gear I buy before I am making money hand over fist are gauntlets and shoes and that is only because you rarely loot half decent ones.
Late game though, there really is nothing to spend all my cash on it just keeps piling up, eventually I have or have read all the books, have a small army of horses, have thousands of troops... still the money keeps rolling in. Why would I not splurge on that masterwork sword or lordly armor?
Hughes
Sergeant
NJSQRL 说:
Agreed. My early- to mid-game goals are to get Lordly armor for myself and Reinforced armor for all my companions; late-game, though, Ymira's got 10 in Trade, Klethi's got 10 in Looting and I've got 5 in Prisoner Management (as well as profitable businesses in all cities), so money isn't as much an issue. When I come across Lordly versions of my companions' armors nowadays (Elite Vaegir or Khergit for Alayen or Baheshtur, Plate for Firentis, Scale for Matheld, etc.), I'll drop the 50 Gs for those extra couple of points of protection.
Ludial
Knight at Arms
My response is in part that I don't trade and rely on strength in numbers. the only trading I ever do is selling loot, so I could get even more soldiers. yes, I do like to make it harder for myself. Also I find that in my early game heavy armor only hampers me. You know, it's heavy 
I mean, with a hardened nomad armor and a good pair of gauntlets I go over 30 for body protection(which is fine) for a weight of just 3 kg! Add 2 kg for the helmet and maybe a pair of greaves at 3 kg and I get mid- to high-end protection all over my body for less than 10 kg! And yes, I find it looks cool(I'm the kind of fighter that likes to look scruffy and rugged 
). Also, I don't know about the rest of you folks, but heavy armor only makes me easier to knock out. It slows me down, and all it takes is a moptop with a good twohander. I mean, lordly plate will not save your arse from getting cleaved in half by a huscarl's great axe, or from getting turned into a pincushion by a crossbow volley. Especially in MP, where you play versus human opponents instead of the rather retarded AI, heavy armor does not make you immortal. All it takes is either a well placed killer shot or a shower of weak shots. The latter thing is what I use to take down knights in SP. Plate does not save them from frenzied mobs of axe-wielding hairy heads.
P.S. Oh, did I mention I don't use companions and like my char and numberless hordes to look scruffy?
I mean, with a hardened nomad armor and a good pair of gauntlets I go over 30 for body protection(which is fine) for a weight of just 3 kg! Add 2 kg for the helmet and maybe a pair of greaves at 3 kg and I get mid- to high-end protection all over my body for less than 10 kg! And yes, I find it looks cool(I'm the kind of fighter that likes to look scruffy and rugged ). Also, I don't know about the rest of you folks, but heavy armor only makes me easier to knock out. It slows me down, and all it takes is a moptop with a good twohander. I mean, lordly plate will not save your arse from getting cleaved in half by a huscarl's great axe, or from getting turned into a pincushion by a crossbow volley. Especially in MP, where you play versus human opponents instead of the rather retarded AI, heavy armor does not make you immortal. All it takes is either a well placed killer shot or a shower of weak shots. The latter thing is what I use to take down knights in SP. Plate does not save them from frenzied mobs of axe-wielding hairy heads.P.S. Oh, did I mention I don't use companions and like my char and numberless hordes to look scruffy?
Ludial 说:My response is in part that I don't trade and rely on strength in numbers. the only trading I ever do is selling loot, so I could get even more soldiers. yes, I do like to make it harder for myself. Also I find that in my early game heavy armor only hampers me. You know, it's heavy
P.S. Oh, did I mention I don't use companions and like my char and numberless hordes to look scruffy?
Right... well, it sounds like you play for other reasons other than conquering. I'm not sure where you get your facts about heavy armor, but with full Lordly Plate the only soldiers that damage me are high tier with either a two handed maul or some similar bludgeon or something that does heavy piercing damage, like a morning star, military pick, or siege crossbow/high tier archer...
Any type of cutting weapon does 0 damage, unless its someone like a lord or Huskarl hitting me in the head, which only has 58 armor.
It also doesn't slow me down that I have noticed, maybe you should try it out.
Ludial
Knight at Arms
Armor doesn't slow you down (considerably) only if you have really high athletics or ride. For a char maxing leadership to allow for overwhelming numbers it's a very different story. maybe you should get off the horse and try it. and yes, I play for conquest, only I do it with soldiers and not by pretending to be immortal while cowering inside a tin can. And like I said, if it can still be breached by anybody, it's not worth the money and effort. I'd rather invest in soldiery than in ludicrously expensive equipment which to top it off is liable to being lost. And that's another little detail behind my reasoning for equipment - replaceability. If I got it from someone I killed, I can get it again. that also happens to be my logic for picking soldiers, so I don't use top tier troops.
If you get captured though, you lose a percentage of your money for sure anyway, which can sting when you have hundreds of thousands of denars. For safeguarding your hard-earned denars it's actually safer to sink it into equipment, since you only lose it sometimes.
When I play a commander character I'm always mounted, makes it easier to run away from threats.
When I play a commander character I'm always mounted, makes it easier to run away from threats.
