Long Axe variants will be unbalanced.

[Coy]

As a dedicated 2 hand spammer, I am slightly annoyed at this nerf. It sounds like their going to make the nord axes handle like the sarranid axes, which are pretty ****ty by comparison. Meh, whatever... I like my bardiches better anyways.

Fixed

 

[KoA John]

So the huge axes will be harder to control ? Good

There wont be as many naked men running around spamming great axes in two-handed mode 

Now all they need to do is make the E-kick back to normal   

 

[Spec]

All "heavier" weapons already do. It's called blockstun. Try overhanding somebody's block when they're using a one-handed sword and you're using a greatsword. Occasionally, their weapon will depress even further than usual and you'll have a window to make another attack.

Yar, I know. It's still rather silly to see huge two handed weapons like the bardiche blocked by normal one handers with ease. If the stun happens, the enemy notices that instantly anyway and just blocks again. The stun also doesn't give you time for a proper feint or anything, so blocking the next strike is also quite easy. Any somewhat experienced fighter should be able to easily block the next strike after a stun.

 

[MadocComadrin]

It still gives you the initiative, however. This is especially useful when fighting more than one person, since you have a split second to concentrate on your other opponent.

 

[FrisianDude]

Oh, nice. I consider this to be a good change.

 

[Alex_C]

I can think of a few individuals it might annoy

My axe D==

 

[Stuboi0]

Ahh i understand what the unbalancing does now Thanks lads. With block stun? I've noticed that actually, I feel though it needs to be a little more "exaggerated" meaning, its more noticeable by unbalanced weapons, which also could do with a more obvious effect of being unbalanced. I don't know its just my opinion of it

 

[captain lust]

I can think of a few individuals it might annoy

My axe D==

I demand a rematch!

 

[silentdawn]

They also need to add the "can't be used on horseback" tag. same with the hammers. I got stupidly long killstreaks with the great longaxe while on horseback. Not to mentions it just looks silly.

 

[MadocComadrin]

Eh, I don't think it's that big of a deal. You either have to be a cav and pick one up or be an infantry and steal a saddle horse. Either way, there's a big chance you'll loose it by dieing, and if you don't die, you deserve to keep it.

 

[fortinbras_martel]

As a dedicated 2 hand user, I am slightly annoyed at this nerf. It sounds like their going to make the nord axes handle like the sanrrind axes, which are pretty ****ty by comparison. Meh, whatever... I like my bardiches better anyways.

Bardiches need this too. Anything which has weight at its point. Hell toss in great swords, and two hand swords for good measure.

 

[Úlfheðinn]

As a dedicated 2 hand user, I am slightly annoyed at this nerf. It sounds like their going to make the nord axes handle like the sanrrind axes, which are pretty ****ty by comparison. Meh, whatever... I like my bardiches better anyways.

Bardiches need this too. Anything which has weight at its point. Hell toss in great swords, and two hand swords for good measure.

Verily!

Let us actually return dueling to something requiring tact!

 

[ares007]

As a dedicated 2 hand user, I am slightly annoyed at this nerf. It sounds like their going to make the nord axes handle like the sanrrind axes, which are pretty ****ty by comparison. Meh, whatever... I like my bardiches better anyways.

Bardiches need this too. Anything which has weight at its point. Hell toss in great swords, and two hand swords for good measure.

uh, two-handed swords do not have their weight at the point. the balance point of a good two-handed sword would be a few inches up from the hilt like any good sword.

 

[Stuboi0]

True that, though I honestly think they are too fast for their own good :S I know some ppl don't want complete realism, but even though the 2h sword was balanced, it would have needed a good soldier to wield one, even then, the speed of the swing wasn't great. Maybe the thing i'm trying to say is to reduce the speed of the 2h swords and maybe bastards too.

 

[ryizzel]

Damn straight people don't want realism, because being realistic does not equate to fun or balance.


Honestly as far as weapon balance goes, I feel that this game is as balanced as it will ever get.

Any tweaks at this point kinda screws with a delicate formula that took a long time to make relatively good. The jury is out on how this will affect gameplay in the future....but  I'm somewhat apprehensive about the results.

 

[Stuboi0]

I know what you mean, but theres being unrealstic and fun, and then theres mad. This would probably affect those clans who specify in 2 handed swords, the Swadians for example. 

 

[Lord_Conan]

i agree  axes 2h must be fixed

 

[Jesus YOUR LORD]

I for one am glad, the ability to feint spam with a 2 h long battle axe makes it overpowered especially given that it's one of the fastest weapons available.  Couple that with decent stun and one hit kill capability I think this change is long over due.

 

[TatteredBanners]

Great news! This might actually make the shorter Axe counter-parts unique and useful now. I never liked to use the long axes because they were cheese mode. But now that they become unbalanced using the shorter variants might have some advantages now because before it was mostly disadvantages aside from the speed difference.

 

[Turanien]

Wow.

All of this bawing over the 2h axes and yet no-one dares cry against the Great Sword?

I wonder why.