Dr-Shinobi
I really hope youre trying to fix the armies problems with food supplies for the love of Soon, because they are still starving each other to death in ridiculous ways...Just saying for the 3-4th time now 
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HugoTheFrenchMan
Grandmaster Knight
Soon( although it isnt much of a problem with how the ai buys food its how they use said food and that when going into an army they dont usually resupply so the army has to do it they only buy a certain amount in quantity but still i also think it kinda needs to be looked into)
Dr-Shinobi
Yes i know brother i corrected it
Dr-Shinobi
Well the thing is that i saw an army of 3000 in an glorious march then they starved em selves down to like around 100+ in like 5 min then it disbanded so it was both exiting, funny and sad at the same time xD
HugoTheFrenchMan
Grandmaster Knight
Thats more of a problem with how the battanias built that army an army with higher numbers is going to starve quicker but i think that most lords usually bring around 100 food into an army its good enough to keep their party but after a few not even days of sharing the army is gone i think an army should disband as quick as it cant if it starts to starve
Dr-Shinobi
yeah its a problem. They had or was talking about an fix before that lords without food where moving out from it to go resupply but im not sure what happened to that one. also they need to fix the army going resupplying at nearest town when they are out. They do at times but sometimes they just march past villages an towns starving em selves even early on
Dr-Shinobi
Interesting for a new title. ill call my lobster friends so we can talk with the lawyers
HugoTheFrenchMan
Grandmaster Knight
They still do that but its a lot rarer since you dont wanna get caught out in the middle of enemy territory and most armies in my campaigns seem to be created near the borders but they still try and resupply themselves which why you sometimes find armies of 600-700 raiding villages its usually due to food
Dr-Shinobi
Yeah its fair enough that they wouldn't risk such decision. Well mine is mixed...Some are created on the far other side in the home country some others by the boarders...But its situational of course depending on borders and war. But still some marches very long ways but my guess its because of the starting general and his/her owner of castles and tows in the regions to i guess of which will become the starting pos
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I will get in touch with my skull drinking friends. It's a win win. Board moral= ?
HugoTheFrenchMan
Grandmaster Knight
Its not that they dont risk its usually because an army goes to siege they calculate the parties around them in an army and on their own and since sieges get grouped up by so many parties they dont risk it of course the general risk still comes into play but not as much as the one for parties near them
Dr-Shinobi
Well that party is just gonna waste time and risk the whole army when it starves right in the middle of the siege of which happened couple of times as the enemies showed up as they where halved sitting in prolonged time throwing catapults (even if its effective to reduce the defenders)...But yeah i understood that to as they do calculate the siege
HugoTheFrenchMan
Grandmaster Knight
Its gonna bring down the army with him and it calculates that too but the ai still thinks the risk is too great due to the army being potentially attacked without them not to mention the on top factor on the risk of leaving so they see staying as the best option
Dr-Shinobi
Interesting point of view. Well they really need to look it thru and reprogram the AI strategy and Steward thinking...But for that only one can give us the answers that we seek.....Soon brother
HugoTheFrenchMan
Grandmaster Knight
I think a little redo could work but the ai strategy just works just fine the part that isnt working is how much food they buy they usually try to buy enough food to get by but when in an army they dont visit settlements as much so its harder for them to get more food you as the player endgame hoard a lot of food or at least i do the ai does not it takes what it needs to survive and usually doesnt go any extra but the one true answer is Soon he shall answer us Soon
Dr-Shinobi
Well the AI is still doing stupid mistakes trapping and repositioning em selves against an larger army to be trapped. Sure they should sometimes be ambushed but when they are deliberate going back and forward against em without anyone on the other side they are just asking for it. However its better then it was before thanks to Soon. And yes they need to be able to plan ahead on the journey but still there will be unplanned events on the way of which should come natural to start em starving if they dont have anywhere around to resupply them at the time. So with that said starving shouldn't come early but later on their campaigns, so this is something prio they really need to look in to for a start. But it could also be that you joined an Army that didnt invited you and perhaps that could conflict with some calculations to (even if i joined ex the Kings posse with an invite and he (someone i ment) starved us at the meeting point ^^) Shouldnt be a problem though if you already have food to the table when you joined
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I like there are some things that TW could alleviate this issue.
- First make ai parties always carry anywhere from 10-14 days of food and if they're going to go below 10 days they can't add anymore members.
- Second ai parties shouldn't be able to raid every single bit of food from a village or town and can only buy food items that are in high supply.
- Third make it so as you level up in tactics you become better and better at rationing food. Most npc lords have good tactics and it would make it more appealing for the pc to invest some in tactics at the same time. I know there are perks to mitigate it but I feel like those aren't enough and are too far down the chain to be useful till much later.
Until they grossly improve lord command and unit AI it's all My supplies and belongings anyways. An army is just a convenient meeting place for my enemies to be crushed.
I hate the army mechanic and I think it just shows all off the flaws in bannerlord combat AI and diplomacy. I'd much rather have it be like warband for most of the time and only occasionally they make a big army. Fighting with or against 100s of brain dead AI troops is just annoying. It's all about my warband for me, AI on either side watch out!
Do you think it's better for a army to sometimes starve or brake off a siege do to starvation, or for an army 'very often' just wander around and never do anything because they're having to (by coding) avoid future starvation (that may or may not happen) all the time. One of these things has to happen, unless you want them to just wander around with impunity forever.
I don't care if armies starve, I'd rather they work on more long term mechanics to help factions make a comeback when they're lost fiefs and power.
I hate the army mechanic and I think it just shows all off the flaws in bannerlord combat AI and diplomacy. I'd much rather have it be like warband for most of the time and only occasionally they make a big army. Fighting with or against 100s of brain dead AI troops is just annoying. It's all about my warband for me, AI on either side watch out!
Do you think it's better for a army to sometimes starve or brake off a siege do to starvation, or for an army 'very often' just wander around and never do anything because they're having to (by coding) avoid future starvation (that may or may not happen) all the time. One of these things has to happen, unless you want them to just wander around with impunity forever.
I don't care if armies starve, I'd rather they work on more long term mechanics to help factions make a comeback when they're lost fiefs and power.
