lancing: first or third person?

[SharpFish]

I was wondering which view people favoured for lance attacks - first person, looking over the horses head, or third, along the lance?

Secondly, has anyone been able to lance to the left of the horses shield, as you would in a joust, keeping the body covered by the shield?

 

[LetterAfterZ]

I was wondering which view people favoured for lance attacks - first person, looking over the horses head, or third, along the lance?

Secondly, has anyone been able to lance to the left of the horses shield, as you would in a joust, keeping the body covered by the shield?

I avoid using first person completely. I played around with it for a while, but i find lancing easier in 3rd person, not to mention you can be aware of your surroundings. And I believe that you can't lance to the left.

 

[okiN]

I do everything in first person. It just feels more natural to me.

 

[Raz]

I think that the models are way too blocky for first person, so I avoid it. You can edit the animations, and iinstead of making the lance go up/down make it go left/right or something like that. I tried it and it works pretty good. I replaced the lance going up animation to the lance going to the left, since lancing upward's useless.

 

[denizk]

First person view makes me feel sick (really, not allegorically). I agree with LAZ that it gives you the chance to check what's happening around you. With first person view it feels like you're inside of a ford taunus and trying to see if you're still on the road!

 

[LetterAfterZ]

First person view makes me feel sick (really, not allegorically). I agree with LAZ that it gives you the chance to check what's happening around you. With first person view it feels like you're inside of a ford taunus and trying to see if you're still on the road!

Nice analogy... I guess it's realistic if you were wearing some kinda plate helm, but otherwise not. I mean really you'd be aware of your left and right surroundings to some degree more than 1st person allows for. Then again, maybe when all these new sounds are added that will take care of that problem...

 

[LetterAfterZ]

New sounds?

It seems to be the current direction in development atm. Improved graphics, settings and sound effects/voices.

 

[Andrei]

Personally, anything on a horse, I do in third person, because I find it easier to control.

If I'm on foot, then either works for me, but... I don't do much lancing on foot 

 

[Titanx3]

i use first person when im shooting things. other then that, its 3rd.

 

[SharpFish]

Thanks for the responses.  I mostly use 3rd myself, but recently discovered I can see my own body!  Yay!  Its the first time I have seen that in a game.

Itsa a pity you cannot aim the lance over to the left.  I'm more and more beginning to think I would like a button to put the lance in couch, rather than happen automatically, as I think it is the automation that prevents it being aimed.

 

[OrientalHero]

I guess if you are right handed on a horse and you put the lance "out of line" on the left, you will get a vector of force pushing across your body.
Maybe not too much of a component across, but we are talking pretty big forces here. I don't know if you have ever ridden a horse, but two stirrups can be quite precarious things to balance on at times!
Maybe if it's the saddle that comes up around you like a car sports seat. But then you wouldn't be able to turn around so often to swat that darned Vergit rider...!

LOL just thinking about the "options" you can get on your horse like Sport Seats. Bling horse shoes and polished saddle horns.

Oriental Hero
Busy genetically modding the Stretch White Limo Courser!

 

[UMR]

I agree with deniz and LAZ Ialways use 1st person..

 

[Marth]

I do everything in first person. It just feels more natural to me.

I agree with this guy! I'd like it if your first person view was different if you wore helm like the great helm, but thats a different story.
testing size thingy

 

[UMR]

I agree with deniz and LAZ I always use 1st person..

Sorry I made a mistake I always use 3rd person...

 

[Taka]

I guess if you are right handed on a horse and you put the lance "out of line" on the left, you will get a vector of force pushing across your body.
Maybe not too much of a component across, but we are talking pretty big forces here. I don't know if you have ever ridden a horse, but two stirrups can be quite precarious things to balance on at times!

Accualy, early calvarymen managed to pull off riding and lance use without the use of stirrups, particularly in bronze age cultures.  I'm not a rider myself, so I may be full of it, but I've talked to a few modern jousters, and they tell me that stirrups make it easyer to joust, but that it's all in the leg control around the horse taht keeps you from being knocked out of your seat.

 

[Phaedo]

I guess if you are right handed on a horse and you put the lance "out of line" on the left, you will get a vector of force pushing across your body.
Maybe not too much of a component across, but we are talking pretty big forces here. I don't know if you have ever ridden a horse, but two stirrups can be quite precarious things to balance on at times!

Accualy, early calvarymen managed to pull off riding and lance use without the use of stirrups, particularly in bronze age cultures.  I'm not a rider myself, so I may be full of it, but I've talked to a few modern jousters, and they tell me that stirrups make it easyer to joust, but that it's all in the leg control around the horse taht keeps you from being knocked out of your seat.

Roman four-horned saddles were excellent for fighting from horseback, and provided comparable stability to stirrups.

 

[Tarrak]

I guess if you are right handed on a horse and you put the lance "out of line" on the left, you will get a vector of force pushing across your body.
Maybe not too much of a component across, but we are talking pretty big forces here. I don't know if you have ever ridden a horse, but two stirrups can be quite precarious things to balance on at times!

Accualy, early calvarymen managed to pull off riding and lance use without the use of stirrups, particularly in bronze age cultures.  I'm not a rider myself, so I may be full of it, but I've talked to a few modern jousters, and they tell me that stirrups make it easyer to joust, but that it's all in the leg control around the horse taht keeps you from being knocked out of your seat.

I think you mistake his post. It sounds to me that he says that the force that is inequally applied to the body while lancing across the neck of the horse will destabilize the rider, but not a comment on stirrups in general. If I'm mistaken then take a look here. http://www.classicalfencing.com/articles/shock.php It basically tells you how unneeded stirrups are for the couched lance technique, proved by testing.

And now to your post in general.
First of all, cavalry wasn't really developed until the Assyrians, an Iron Age culture, though that can be argued to an extent, but their weapons were of iron.
Also those cavalrymen were not lancers as you think of them. They did not charge in. Cavalry at the times were two things: Skirmishers and chasers. Skirmishers were horse archers and the like, and chasers were the cavalry armed with spears (not lances).
Not until the Companions of Macedon did cavalry charge en masse and for the effect of shock. They were the first 'lancers'.

 

[DamnedChoir]

First person feels somewhat claustraphobic, heart pounding, easy to be ambushed and overwhelmed, and when you get hit, you almost flinch. That's why I prefer it.

 

[Filipe]

Mounted: 3rd
Foot: 1st

 

[calandale]

I like to watch: 3rd always.