La Cumpainie de Segunz Filz [NA/EU]

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Aethel

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La Cumpainie de Segunz Filz
The Company of Second Sons

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There are those who have always been second,
those who have been abandoned by their kin,
the ones who have been given the short end,
Hear, hear, listen, seconds sons,
Make your own fates!



 
Cançuns de nostres gestes
Songs of Our Heroic Deeds

La Cumpainie de Segunz Filz, or "The Company of Second Sons", could be seen as an early symptom of the future Norman people, unique and exceptional. The small band seemed to originate as the retainers and followers, the familia regis, of a second son of a lord, Amalri.
Being from the Norman half of the Vexin, Amalri came to be simply known as "Amalri de la Vexin", as well did many of his followers.

It is not too clear where the original band went after departing the Vexin. It is suggested that Amalri took up work as a retainer in Rouen for a time under the Count, but by 1000 AD, there's records of a similar "Amalri" fighting in Aragona against Mohammedans on behalf of the Count of Barcelona, Ramon Borrell.
This Amalri died there, around 1010, but his followers had become loyal to his name and spirit, and so delivered his body to Rome to be buried.
It is suggested that the small group of Normans stayed together, even without a lord and master, and may have even ventured into southern Italy for a time, probably joining the Drengots and their large band of exiles on pilgrimage to the shrine of the archangel Michael.
In 1018, the Battle of Cannae occurred between the Greek Catepanate and some rebellious Lombards, with the latter hiring a notable number of Normans.
It is highly possible that it was at Cannae that the La Cumpainie de Segunz Filz came to form.

Returning to Normandie around 1020, the La Cumpainie de Segunz Filz was now a much different animal than the one that had left some decades prior.
Most of its original fighters were likely gone by this point, and in their place the ranks swelled, with odd Bretons, Flems, Franks, and anyone else who could speak an ounce of the rough Norman tongue.

Li garçun
The Lads
- Serle del Velgesin
- Galter li Senglers


Joindre la rute
Joining the Troop
We are a North American and European clan, no boundaries hold us back.
If you seek to join the La Cumpainie de Segunz Filz, simply post an introduction to yourself in this thread and state your intention and desire to join our ranks.
Then, we will look to contact you through Steam. When we get a Teamspeak and a Steam group, we'll let you know.

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This clan is, as you might guess, very much a 'work-in-progress.'
Before you criticize the bad French/Norman, realize that it is all placeholders, waiting for folk like you (particularly Hrotha) to come along and nitpick for us.
We hope that someday this clan page will be as spiffy as the Fyrningas' thread.
Furthermore, the conceptual foundations of the clan are also very "wip", so bear with us.
 
Captain Melon said:
Aethel said:
Yeah, that was me; "Serle d'Ivri." Fun event.
Looking to join?

Possibly, if there is no strict attendance for anything.
:wink: Not that I'm aware of, and I'm the co-founder so I should know..

Right now, I think it will be just Shieldwall Events, Hildileikr Days, and larger events, when we can catch them.
At this point (especially since there's only 2 of us), we basically just show up to Vikingr fights, and if more than 1 Second Son shows up, then hurray for association.

Hopefully in the future we'll get a channel on the Teamspeak server when and if the Vikingr community gets more active.
At that point, if there's enough of us and enough of those players are interested, we could try some more organization, but that would be a long way off.
 
Captain Melon said:
Aethel said:
Yeah, that was me; "Serle d'Ivri." Fun event.
Looking to join?

Possibly, if there is no strict attendance for anything.

As Serle has said, there's not any strict attendance at the moment, since we're still a clan of only two people. But perhaps in the future it might happen. Right now this is just something casual, and an attempt to make a Norman clan that will at the very least be semi-active within the Vikingr community. If you like Normans, and want to fight alongside others who also enjoy the Normans, then I would like to hope that this is the place for you.
 
Aethel said:
Hopefully in the future we'll get a channel on the Teamspeak server when and if the Vikingr community gets more active.

Usually there was the rule that you needed to have at least five guys to get your banner included in the mod, I like to think that this goes for the channels on the TS as well, although personally I think it is more important that said clans have a thread on the board. If you want a channel, that's fine, but consider making a banner first (this would also allow me to make an icon for you in there).
 
Dansk viking said:
Usually there was the rule that you needed to have at least five guys to get your banner included in the mod, I like to think that this goes for the channels on the TS as well, although personally I think it is more important that said clans have a thread on the board. If you want a channel, that's fine, but consider making a banner first (this would also allow me to make an icon for you in there).
No, of course, we won't even approach it until the clan has more apparent "roots into the earth", as it were.

While we're on the topic though, we were discussing some banner options, and the ideas have been all over the board.
Everything from typical Norman imagery (like those "dracos" on their kite shields, or those Crusader-like crosses) to things like specific checkered designs and a stylized depiction of a cavalier. I personally like the dragon (it is a dragon, right?) depicted on many Norman shields, as seen here.
We also have some back-up names discussed in case "The Company of the Second Sons" becomes problematic in some way.
 
One of the few things I liek about the normans are the shield designs, especially those that you mentioned. They are also very Norman specific in the mod, so I think it would be a good idea to use something like that for the Banner. Maybe with a checkered background?

And why would the name become a problem? I think it perfectly fits the style and Idea you have for the clan.
 
I'm a bit late since I just got back.

But on behalf of the Gægningas; welcome to the community! I hope that you prosper and enjoy your stay with us. :smile:


~ Þéodríc Fýrfeax
 
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