Kick Slash

[scythe111]

This is honestly one of the bigger reasons I don't play Warband too much anymore. Kick was originally intended to be a distance creating move for people with 2h'ers, not a free kill.

For those that don't know, a "kick slash" is where the user kicks and then immediately slashes the enemy before they can even conceivably get their block up. It's a free hit/kill.

I'm including a poll. What do you all think?

 

[Marin Peace Bringer]

Alright, first off it is not easy to kick-slash.  When you kick, you can not release an attack until you can move again, and if your opponent has a shield, it will block (60% of the time) the attack.

Kick-slashing is not a easy thing to do, and I even have a hard time doing it.

I do not think you can say that it is a "free" kill, because if someone is really good, and they can beat people easily, it does not make there kills "free" they had to work to get that skilled.

 

[AWdeV]

Add another option to the poll: People whine about it too damn much.

 

[Stabbing Hobo]

When you kick, you can not release an attack until you can move again, and if your opponent has a shield, it will block (60% of the time) the attack.

Yeah, if you're using a weapon with 90 speed. Which would be long axes in 2h mode and the Rhodok hammers. Anything else and you'll land most hits. It has nothing to do whether the one getting kicked is using a shield or not.

 

[longbow93]

Blablabla still threads whining bout kickslash. It's just fine ( btw its fine option is winning, ye boring whiners ).

 

[Parity]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I never use a kick with a chambered attack, I usually load up the swing after the kick has been done... in any case, kicks are easily avoidable.

 

[African]

I kickslash way more than I'd like, since it's extremely easy and almost always a free hit when your kick lands.

There have been a ton of threads on this topic, and the two suggestions I like most from them is allowing the kicked person to manual block the slash, or really reducing the range. Second option would be easiest, but I think the first would be best for game balance.

 

[Big_Mac]

This is honestly one of the bigger reasons I don't play Warband too much anymore.

THIS! I know of others who feel the exact same way aswell. Seriously, can't it just be taken out? Warband was fine without it.

 

[DavidMF]

This is honestly one of the bigger reasons I don't play Warband too much anymore.

THIS! I know of others who feel the exact same way aswell. Seriously, can't it just be taken out? Warband was fine without it.

We all asked for that kick button, kickslash was just bonus 

 

[Big_Mac]

This is honestly one of the bigger reasons I don't play Warband too much anymore.

THIS! I know of others who feel the exact same way aswell. Seriously, can't it just be taken out? Warband was fine without it.

We all asked for that kick button, kickslash was just bonus 

Pff, a bug more like!

 

[Leto]

I think the kick is still necessary, perhaps make it so you can't attack directly after you kick, so that while it gives you momentum in the duel, it doesn't simply kill the other player

@big mac, kickslash wasn't a bug, it was made to kill turtlers

 

[Baron Conrad]

When someone tries to kick you....jump and the kick goes under.

 

[Kittenhuffer]

I'll post what I've posted in similar threads like this the past months; I rarely get kickslashed, and when I do it's because I was sloppy in keeping the distance.

The kick looks a bit silly, I agree. Maybe it'd look more natural with an elbow/shield bash or something like that instead, but the kick serves its purpose well. For me it's not a problem and it never has been.

 

[Urgnot]

Dunno what the problem with kick slashing is, it's part of the game. You can 100% of the time block a kick slash if the opponent swings left or right.

 

[Stabbing Hobo]

Dunno what the problem with kick slashing is, it's part of the game. You can 100% of the time block a kick slash if the opponent swings left or right.

No you can't unless he's using Rhodok Hammers.

 

[Recel]

Kickslah, weapon speeds and so on isnt a problem for people who played this game for a while. But those people just say "Deal with it!". I realy think that instead of teorical tutorials this game would need actualy some real tutorial to help people. I know that such servers have been made before but they didnt go very far. Something should be done about this. Unless people just dont want any more new players.

You cant just give a guy a stick and place him agains a guy with a shotgun and say "Learn to deal with it".

Also, a lot of "pro" players are generaly d*ck heads. Yes i said it, so deal with it. 

 

[Blaze]

You cant just give a guy a stick and place him agains a guy with a shotgun and say "Learn to deal with it".

The difference here is that both players have access to it. So it's more like two people fighting with chainsaws but one doesn't know how to turn it on.

You could just learn use it and how to dodge it. The recovery time for a missed kick is usually fatal most of the time, so with great risk comes great reward.

 

[Recel]

The difference here is that both players have access to it. So it's more like two people fighting with chainsaws but one doesn't know how to turn it on.

Stick= someone who doesnt know how to use it thus cant instant kill (like with a stick)
Shotgun= someone who can use it thus can instantkill (like with a shotgun)

They both have acces to it, but if i would give you a jetfighter it wouldnt fly for years untill you lean how to fly it, and maybe you just wont have the time/patient etc to learn it by yourself. But if you would have someone to teach you...

 

[doomsayer]

The difference here is that both players have access to it. So it's more like two people fighting with chainsaws but one doesn't know how to turn it on.

It's not like both players have access to it. Only the guy with the lower weapon and/or on the defense can use it. Good luck trying to kickslash a bardicheman holding the upper end of a ladder.
Also it's not automatically ok if everyone can use it. I mean, if they added some undefeatable joke chainsaw into the game that would suck even more if everyone could use it.

You could just learn use it and how to dodge it. The recovery time for a missed kick is usually fatal most of the time, so with great risk comes great reward.

You can block while kicking. The only risk is that you can't block stabs afaik (ironically since all other blocks mess up the animation), which I'm pretty sure are too slow to chamber to counter a kick. Never tried it though.

 

[RossaK]

The difference here is that both players have access to it. So it's more like two people fighting with chainsaws but one doesn't know how to turn it on.

It's not like both players have access to it. Only the guy with the lower weapon and/or on the defense can use it. Good luck trying to kickslash a bardicheman holding the upper end of a ladder.
Also it's not automatically ok if everyone can use it. I mean, if they added some undefeatable joke chainsaw into the game that would suck even more if everyone could use it.

You could just learn use it and how to dodge it. The recovery time for a missed kick is usually fatal most of the time, so with great risk comes great reward.

You can block while kicking. The only risk is that you can't block stabs afaik (ironically since all other blocks mess up the animation), which I'm pretty sure are too slow to chamber to counter a kick. Never tried it though.

How about the fact that this tactic can be highly abused by low pingers? Blocking with a weapon/shield is already hard enough but attacks are pretty well telegraphed. A sudden kick then a perfectly timed slashed can mean once second you're alive.. then the next you hear the death noise and wonder where it came from. I'd say remove kick until netcode is improved upon.