Khergits?

[Masterja]

Huns are totally out of timeframe, Mongols are good candidates but Khergits can represent basically any nomadic people of SE Europe and central Asia. Turks were using foot soldiers so are less obvious candidates.

Ahem...

First: I am back again. I was too busy with all school, only my fellows from medicine school know how is it...

Second: There are no nomadic people in SE Europe. Here are Slovens (not sure if thats how it is said on English) who include Serbians, Croatians, Bosnians, Bulgarians (non of us are nomads, we were foot soldiers, mostly spearmen) and there are Greek people who include Greeks, Macedonians.

Third: Turks had Janisaries (not sure if thats how it is said lol), foot soldiers, so Turks are eliminated from game. I have heard that Mongols too have footmen. Huns however are married to horses - They sleep on horses, eat on horses, and every Hun had horse (like Kherghit). So they are most likely Huns .

 

[FrisianDude]

Ahem...

First: I am back again. I was too busy with all school, only my fellows from medicine school know how is it...

Second: There are no nomadic people in SE Europe. Here are Slovens (not sure if thats how it is said on English) who include Serbians, Croatians, Bosnians, Bulgarians (non of us are nomads, we were foot soldiers, mostly spearmen) and there are Greek people who include Greeks, Macedonians.

Slavs, I think. Maybe he meant Hungarians, Magyar, with his SE Europe comment? When they arrived there they were a horse- people afaIk.

 

[hruza]

Yes, I meant steppes of contemporary southern Ukraine and Russia not Balkans obviously. Lands around Black sea. Magyars before they settled, Pechenegs, Kitchpacks, Tatars, what reminded of Iranian speaking nomads like Allans, Bulgars before they merged with Slavic population, Chazars and others. I am sorry if I confused somebody.

As for Huns ...again those are out of timeframe in my opinion, its clearly Medieval period which game represent. Huns simply do not fit in to world of knights, Vikings, Slavs, Italian citystates. Huns did not know stirrups for example ...or better say Europe of Hun invasion did not know stirrups, those were brought by Avars few centuries later. How can ju get medieval knight without stirrups? Equipment in game as well as castles, kings and vassalage mean its Europe 1000AD or later. Nowhere near Hunic invasion, that was time when there was still Imperial Rome.

 

[Kolic]

huns, mongols or whatever, i still like them alot

 

[-Ignorak-]

Hahaha, Yeah I don't think anyone likes the Khergits

I do D:

 

[soulcalibur]

i think rodoks represents islamic culture. why?
town names -veluja, jelkala, yalen- are similar arabian words
most of u r europen or american and u see yourselves as referance so u r conecting them with any european nation but u must
think again developers are from a muslim country and they may wanna put islamic culture into game
as a turk i dont think they r italan, they must be arabian

 

[Mastermind]

i think rodoks represents islamic culture. why?
town names -veluja, jelkala, yalen- are similar arabian words
most of u r europen or american and u see yourselves as referance so u r conecting them with any european nation but u must
think again developers are from a muslim country and they may wanna put islamic culture into game
as a turk i dont think they r italan, they must be arabian

Well I always wondered what rhodoks were, italian city states didn't seem that wrong, but my first guess was the byzantine empire. Anyways, I don't think it's islamic culture due to the total lack of cavalry, the high usage of crossbows and the general feeling of the faction.
I've always wondered why this game doesn't have a faction with clear islamic roots, but meh, maybe it'll come some day ^^

 

[duracell]

I've always wondered why this game doesn't have a faction with clear islamic roots, but meh, maybe it'll come some day ^^

The new faction in warband will be kind of islamic.

@soulcalibur
Yes, the developers are from Turkey and they said that the Rhodoks are based on italians.
btw there is nothing arabic in the Rhodoks.

 

[FrisianDude]

Armagan said somewhere that Rhodoks were simply some sort of hill people. And equipment wise they're not all that middle-eastern either.

 

[Ainlor]

In Feudalism, we didn't had a concept of "State" yet, like we do today. That concept is something relatively new. So trying to connect one single nation with a M&B faction is futile, imho.

 

[Mk3390]

^ Not necessarily, this is not based on "states" but on cultures and tradition. It obvious that an english or french tradition would fit the swadians, even possibly teutonic.

 

[hruza]

In Feudalism, we didn't had a concept of "State" yet, like we do today. That concept is something relatively new.

That doesn't mean they did not have concept of "State", it just mean it was different from modern one. This apply to many other concepts. For example ancient Greeks had concept of economy (oikonomia) but it had different meaning to them than it have to us in modern times. It meant basically agriculture and household management. Does that mean they did not had concept of "Economy" then? After all word itself is ancient Greek in origin. Concepts evolve as people do. That doesn't mean they did not existed before. If you read "The Republic" of Plato (in original "Politeía") you will find out that already ancients had plenty of ideas what "State" is and should be.

 

[Ainlor]

Well, just what I tried to mean. It'd be senseless to think that people living in society didn't have a feeling of collectivity, or patriotism if you prefer to call it. It just hadn't much to do from what it is considered today. Seems like i've been completely misunderstood or most probably, I expressed myself really badly. (English isn't my main language, as you must have noticed)

Mk, i've seen many people in this thread trying to claim a direct relationship with a single state towards a M&B faction, while i'm with you that this should be based on culture/tradition.

Hruza, thanks for your lesson & recommendation, though it wasn't necessary at all

 

[kazakh]

...
ddrake >> no, we all know they all are Turks from Ankara that just happen to speak English with player When at hard disk or loaded in memory they speak Turkic between them

Really? 
Cheaty kebabish turkicy NPCs!

well, you are really an anti-turkic troll. firstly; turkish language is an altaic language; not kebabish arabic! and also kebab is an arabic word (food name), transferred to turkish language.

as for me;

swadians; germans (hre)
nords; vikings
rhodoks; meditterenean-italian city states
vaegirs; slavic tundra people with some asiatic elements
khergits; altaic steppe people, i think pre-islamic turks or seljuks. (turks, mongols, tatars)
sarranid; arabic/persian desert state.