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Khergits?
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Tomor the Mercenary
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29111943 说:
Yes, I think this is the most obvious one.
Just take a look at this illustration of Mongol horsemen:
I see a striking similarity.
duracell 说:Swadian Man at Arms 说:
No. Vaegirs are the English guys.
You know Vaegirs-> bow -> Robin Hood -> English.
Vaegirs are more Slavic.
Refer to 29111943's post.
King Loras
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You are correct, in that the only faction that uses Long Bows are the Nords. The Vaegirs use Short/Nomad Bows, which are also used by the Khergits in addition to Khergit Bows. So ya, the Vaegirs are definitely not Western. They are an Eastern faction, like the Khergits. The Nords can be the "everywhere else" faction in a way, since the Vikings/Norse in real life settled in many different places, including England and Italy, and they traveled as far as modern-day Ukraine in the east and modern-day Canada in the west.Mk3390 说:
HRE ?
They are Germans, they had teutonic knights, templars as you see.
They are Germans, they had teutonic knights, templars as you see.
Aticus
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No, but you can ask some geek who has been here since .202 or something. He'll make up a nice story with a ribbon on top. No, there is not a definite story, it is for you to make up. I think Swadia is Swabia, the Rhodoks are Italian "people", the Vaegirs are some huge Russian tribe, the Nords are nords, and the Kergits are a buch of tribes that somehow managed to successfully unite and rebel against the Khan and set up their own Khanate, according to the Kergit claimant in-game. Calradia was one loosely tied confederacy whose emperor died or something. Calradia was split and had a great civil war. The Nords, who were already piraping(pillaging/raping) the coast, were united under "the emperor beyond the sea" or some crap like that. They decided to settle down and fish on the coast and trade with people civilly(???) while waging war, because they can. Vaegirs invaded because Calradia was weak. The Rhodoks were always there, and love fighting the Kergits because spear + horse = lol. And that's Calradia's history. I'm not kidding you, that was all I know of general history, because it doesn't exist. Hopefully, M&B 2 will expound on it a lot better than it does now.
Think about it this way: Calradia was the HRE(sort of). It split(don't care how, probably Harlaus's fault). The Nords organized themselves into one large coalition(somehow) with a king. The Khergits rebelled against the Khanate(seriously, that's impossible), and established their own. The Vaegirs... well they're obviously slavic, not Norwegian. The Rhodoks are Italian, perhaps Swiss, being that Switzerland is the closest Italian area to Swabia and that the Swiss used pikes quite often. As for Swadia, it's the remnant of Calradia. The-freaking-End.
deathknight1728
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Khergits are such bastards in the game and in real life, but......so much fun to play as!
Gothmar
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Vaegirs I would have too say are Russian/slavic for sure. If you google Russian history, early on when they were slavic tribes a large part of thier culture, trade etc..., came from the norse and even norse tribes merged with many slavic ( russia) tribes ...I would say this explains a lot of the similar armor .... Later as they unified ( barrely) they were up against the Golden Horde ( mongol ) in which a man named Alexander Nevsky became popular , which also became known as Grand Prince of Vladimir. hmm that looks familiar . Also stating that the time leading up to these days, that the Russian Empire had contact with European factions ( explaining having knights ), asian ( explaining using Nomad bows and sabre ), and the Greek/Byzantine Empire. Just my two sense towards the lad that seems convinced about them being Norway origins. If I would ever to agree with you that they are, then I would have too start calling all the French, Germans, since the Franks that settled France were a german tribe.
. Also stating that the time leading up to these days, that the Russian Empire had contact with European factions ( explaining having knights ), asian ( explaining using Nomad bows and sabre ), and the Greek/Byzantine Empire. Just my two sense towards the lad that seems convinced about them being Norway origins. If I would ever to agree with you that they are, then I would have too start calling all the French, Germans, since the Franks that settled France were a german tribe.
Your Calradian history is semi-right.
First, Calradia was a unified nation, existing from what we today in 1.011 know as Swadia and Rhodok. Somewhere back in Warrider, in between the slow action and necromancy, the Rhodok people rebelled from their Swadian overlords, with the support of the recently united Khergits. While this turmoil is happening, the faction of searaiders, Nords, place fortresses along the coast of the Calradian continent, so they may capture it. The Vaegir tribes also united to claim the land their own.
At least that's what I got from playing the older versions, since they do follow chronologically from the original beta to released edition.
First, Calradia was a unified nation, existing from what we today in 1.011 know as Swadia and Rhodok. Somewhere back in Warrider, in between the slow action and necromancy, the Rhodok people rebelled from their Swadian overlords, with the support of the recently united Khergits. While this turmoil is happening, the faction of searaiders, Nords, place fortresses along the coast of the Calradian continent, so they may capture it. The Vaegir tribes also united to claim the land their own.
At least that's what I got from playing the older versions, since they do follow chronologically from the original beta to released edition.
Hietala
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My theory:
Swadia - France
Rhodok - Italian city states
Vaegirs - Slavs/Russians
Nords - Vikings/Normans
Khergits - Mongols
Calradia used to be one large empire, right? First people think it refers to the Roman Empire, but I think that statement is wrong. I think that empire refers to the Frankish empire under Charlemagne. The Swadians (French) are the direct decessors of the Calradians (Franks). Ok, it may not really refer to it, but it are the most similar examples to me.
Swadia - France
Rhodok - Italian city states
Vaegirs - Slavs/Russians
Nords - Vikings/Normans
Khergits - Mongols
Calradia used to be one large empire, right? First people think it refers to the Roman Empire, but I think that statement is wrong. I think that empire refers to the Frankish empire under Charlemagne. The Swadians (French) are the direct decessors of the Calradians (Franks). Ok, it may not really refer to it, but it are the most similar examples to me.
Lord Burgess1
I'd say Swadia are just north west europe, German/France and England.
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Mk3390 说:
No need to get defensive. As I was reading through this entire post you have been a large portion of the debate on this topic and consistantly ( as you put it above ) tried to prove your point on the facts that you were presenting. Isn't that what I just did to debate back. Don't go and be stubborn yourself when historical facts are presented back too you in a debate on a subject otherwise, why post yours? Bottom line is this is a game, even if there are relations that could be tied to real historical cultures, if you or anyone want to think of any of the Kingdoms too be a certain culture then hooorah! more power too them that is the point of it being a Game. Heck I rather think of the Rhoduks being more Greek. Spears only?? trade of Wine?? sounds greek too me so why not
Nords are Scandinavian. haven't you heard of NORSE mythology?
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