Khergit Questions

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Yo guys, I am kinda new to the forums so bear with me. 

I was wondering what the most formidable and useful khergit units were.  Like if I wanted to have an amazing army that could just crush everyone would I be leaning towards lancers, or veteran archers, ect. ?  What do you guys think?
 
Khergits are not really considered useful, but i'd say lancers are the best.  If you really want an army try nord huscarls
 
Vet horse archers stray to their bows more often obviously, but lancers are pretty good too. And for the record Khergits are in fact not useless. They simply go about things differently than the linear thinking of Nords.
 
Personally, I feel the Khergits are at their best in a player-ran army, Ya need to keep an eye on the bastards at all times, sneaky little buggers... because you can get the most out of them from good commands, unlike the AI. :smile:
 
Lancers are good...

I just wouldnt count on much of a siege army w/pure khergits!

 
The thing with the Khergit Lancers is they are fast and hit hard, so they are the perfect troop type when fighting horse archers...

So we come into a little problem, don't be Khergits unless you want to fight steppe raiders and other Khergits all the time. No wonder the tribes fight amongst eachother, because they get raped when fighting anyone else  :lol:

And Khergit Veteran Horse archers are the worst top tier troop type in the game by far. If i were you, i'd stick to an all lancer army. Most of them have bows anyway, who needs horse archers.
 
Khergits are RUBBISH is sieges but the horse-archers are good.

If you want a good army don't join a faction for awhile and get some of the following-

Vaegir Marksmen (best archers EVER)
Nord Huscarls (can 1-hit-KO caravan guards AND their horses at the same time)
Swadian Knights (all-round cavaly goodness)
Khergit Veteran Horse Archers (have quick horses and good with bows on slow infantry)
and Rhodok Veteran Spearmen. (great in sieges because they have longer reach than everyone else)

That way you should have a strong archery, infantry and cavalry element.

Managing everyone with the backspace menu can get you an edge on large groups of Nords/Rhodoks.(my army of 86 vs 212 Nords-I only lost 30 men)
 
Their lancers are good in the field, but it takes some micromanagement, so you just don't want them to charge into... say... a full Nord army with heavy infantry?

They are rubbish in sieges, though...
 
If you wanted an "amazing army that could just crush everyone" you wouldn't be leaning towards Khergits at all, imo. They would be quite godly if each of them was controlled by a player, but as far as the AI control goes they pretty much suck, especially in sieges, and you may be doing a lot of those if you want to crush everything.
Also, Swadian "Kniggets". They do tend to crush everything, I speak from experience.
 
If you want an army that can beat everything you either have to play on easy (like I do... yes, I'm ashamed) or field an army that picks the best from everyone.

There was a guy around here earlier, called Ludial, he's inactive for the moment but will come back. He claims that an army of Vaegir Marksmen can take down anything you throw at it, and he also claimed it was really usefull in sieges, when he assaulted a castle or city he would order his archers to stand ground and empty their quivers, then retreat and repeat.

If you play on easy you should have no problem wiping the enemy with an all cavalry party, I do that, I have Vaegir and Swadian knights, Khergit Lancers and Right now I have a heap of Mercenary Cavalry too, cause I needed to pump my size up quick.
 
I wouldn't go with the Khergits. When i first started playing i thought it was fun charging in with hundreds of cavalry but now i love having millions of Vaegir marksmen and shredding my enemies to pieces. I say you should lean towards veteran archers.
 
Yet your profile says your favorite faction is the Khergits. And if I would want to charge into some infantry with alot of cavalry, I would go for Swadian kniggets
 
Hietala said:
Yet your profile says your favorite faction is the Khergits. And if I would want to charge into some infantry with alot of cavalry, I would go for Swadian kniggets
I haven't changed that, sorry. And i said when i first started playing and Khergits were easier to get at that time.
 
like djude said, khergits aren't very good at siege's, this is my current army for my current character

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i have yet to be beaten with this army, it's rare that i loose many men, this could also be the fact that i have Jeremus in my army, i haven't attempted a siege with just my army yet though, they would get slaughtered, but with any army that has cavalry, try and fight your enemy in open fields, they won't stand a chance
 
khergit vet archers can be really fun to fight with. a small group of your vet archers (and you as a horse archer) vs stepppebandits is expecially fun since you can clearly see how much better khergit vet archers are.
 
captain lust said:
I'd get more companions.

yeah am not really into companions, but Jeremus is a must have, he keeps my troops nice and healthy, can't remember if it's Jeremus, but i'm sure he's against raids on village's, which isn't a good thing as i like to raid every village i pass
 
Khergits would be more useful if they could actually circle the enemy.  If you use follow me command, the tail end gets tangled up in the enemy infantry and slaughtered.
 
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