Kengeki [B]
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Lord Benrir
Sergeant Knight at Arms
Although I dread huge, oversized weapons and stuff, I have to admit that it looks like it's fun! 
Alex Dragon
Banned
Waiting for the awesome single player ^^.
Hope in Kengeki 1.8 it will fix the bug in single player.
Hope in Kengeki 1.8 it will fix the bug in single player.
HitoKiri
Banned
Really Great job :°).
But, I don't think this mod is really based on the Edo, it's too .. unrealistic..
It's looks like more as a Manga game than a really mod on based in the Edo period. And I don't like that, when I see magic sword of THE DEATH of 4meter of range a shuriken of 1meters thrown at 600km/h, and THE NARUTO JUMP FROM THE SKY MULTI NINJA OF THE DEATH OF FIRE !!! I don't think you can say it's based on Edo.
But your work is great - I don't like that, but you probaly worked a lot on it, so it's respectable ! Continue !
But, I don't think this mod is really based on the Edo, it's too .. unrealistic..
It's looks like more as a Manga game than a really mod on based in the Edo period. And I don't like that, when I see magic sword of THE DEATH of 4meter of range a shuriken of 1meters thrown at 600km/h, and THE NARUTO JUMP FROM THE SKY MULTI NINJA OF THE DEATH OF FIRE !!! I don't think you can say it's based on Edo.
But your work is great
- I don't like that, but you probaly worked a lot on it, so it's respectable ! Continue !
-Raven-
Veteran
Tbh I think the fact that we finally have a Manga themed mod for Warband is totally AWESOME!!!
You should make more hairstyles dude like Sasuke Uchihas Hair from Naruto and Dantes from DMC
It would be awesome if you could implement different kinds of jutsus (magic) too like the Fireball jutsu and the Lightning Blade etc. Just saying like it would be so badass cant wait for next version
You should make more hairstyles dude like Sasuke Uchihas Hair from Naruto and Dantes from DMC
It would be awesome if you could implement different kinds of jutsus (magic) too like the Fireball jutsu and the Lightning Blade etc. Just saying like it would be so badass
cant wait for next version Amyzzz
Recruit
musyna 说:
Why the hell you missed YUIAS the ORIGINAL KENGEKI author?
BTW WB-Kengeki0.95 and MP-Kengeki was deleted by someone after this year. (Yuias said he don't deleted by himself)
Those two mods have credits on readme.txt, for other mod's resources too. So I have no idea why it deleted.
whichever, our Japaneses mod community are lil confusing about why it's named as "Kengeki".
Because Yuias are still work in progress for new version of Kengeki. it's already announced with some new screenshots.
musyna
Recruit
From the looks of it Yuias is going in another direction with this new mod; judging by the look of the armor. I also believe that since he's working on it with the Japanese modding community it will be made for the Japanese players. This mod is intended for English players and will be going for it's original goal of having mostly Japanese (fantasy) factions.
p.s. whats the link for this new mod that he's working on...
p.s. whats the link for this new mod that he's working on...
FrisianDude
Archduke
I love the armours, but I loathe those faces.
bebebobo
Regular
There isn't one,all we got now are few pictures.musyna 说:
That "Japaneses mod community" is just a thread in 2ch,and this means there is no way to contact Yuias directly, plus, he don't speak English.
Still, since Yuias is back for now, you may wish to contact him about this mod. Those Japaneses seems quite angry about you claim your mod is the official Kengeki. I personally suggest you simply change the name of this mod, they probably won't mind further since you already gave Yuias credit.
Sorry for frequent editing, the situation has changed a bit.
musyna
Recruit
lol found their thread: http://yuzuru.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/game/1295143303/601-700
I read from the link below that his stuff was removed for using items from other mods without giving credit...we have permission to use the items and we give them credit so that is why we call it more official.
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,152380.msg3661511.html#msg3661511
I read from the link below that his stuff was removed for using items from other mods without giving credit...we have permission to use the items and we give them credit so that is why we call it more official.
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,152380.msg3661511.html#msg3661511
Amyzzz
Recruit
at first, I aporogize about my bad English.
Yes because ORIGINAL kengeki's direction is mix with Euro-fantasy and Japanese-fantasy, from origin.
He doesn't have time to work for Euro-fantasy part when he released Original MP-Kengeki0.95. it's why you thought Original Kengeki is going to another direction perhaps?
So Kengeki's direction isn't changed still. it's same direction as past.
http://0bbs.jp/mbw/img0_8
http://0bbs.jp/mbw/img0_9
http://0bbs.jp/mbw/img0_10
http://0bbs.jp/mbw/img0_11
http://0bbs.jp/mbw/img0_12
http://0bbs.jp/mbw/img0_13
http://bandito.web.infoseek.co.jp/cgi-bin/MnB/data/mb0559.jpg
http://bandito.web.infoseek.co.jp/cgi-bin/MnB/data/mb0560.jpg
http://bandito.web.infoseek.co.jp/cgi-bin/MnB/data/mb0563.jpg
http://bandito.web.infoseek.co.jp/cgi-bin/MnB/data/mb0564.jpg
http://bandito.web.infoseek.co.jp/cgi-bin/MnB/data/mb0566.jpg
http://bandito.web.infoseek.co.jp/cgi-bin/MnB/data/mb0567.jpg
http://bandito.web.infoseek.co.jp/cgi-bin/MnB/data/mb0629.jpg
That's not reason to why you guys using name of Kengeki and called "it's Official"
Yuias commented to JP-MOD forum yesteday. His comment is below.(I just trancerated)
Period.
Well, at first, up-to-date MP-Kengeki to 0.98 while waiting original release is really terrific solution though. because I'm loving Kengeki too.
Also I know get permissions for use resources are hard work if mod have many none-original resource. I have simmiler experience when I modding in TES4. I want to appreciate you.
But in other side, I worry about if his motivation is downed and quit development by this problem. I really afraid it because we lot of Japanese (and some foreigners of Anime fun which loving Original kengeki. I know some people loving NE-Kengeki still) expecting new version of release.
So I suggest about you guys better to rename this mod to another name(before Yuias get mad much more.)
in fact, it's shouldn't called Official kengeki, like Yuias said in above comment.
So how shades_o_gray know about reason to why it deleted?
Well, I won't ask whos send PM to MBR Admin for ban Original. but in fact, credits was on readme.txt on archive. also he said he doesen't using resources which indispensable contact and to get permission, like gutekfiutek's Polished Landscape mod. Check the archive of 0.95 if you have still.
So that's should be just mistake.
Again, I highly suggest just rename it and write up his name on credit immediately.
Best regards.
musyna 说:
Yes because ORIGINAL kengeki's direction is mix with Euro-fantasy and Japanese-fantasy, from origin.
He doesn't have time to work for Euro-fantasy part when he released Original MP-Kengeki0.95. it's why you thought Original Kengeki is going to another direction perhaps?
So Kengeki's direction isn't changed still. it's same direction as past.
http://0bbs.jp/mbw/img0_8
http://0bbs.jp/mbw/img0_9
http://0bbs.jp/mbw/img0_10
http://0bbs.jp/mbw/img0_11
http://0bbs.jp/mbw/img0_12
http://0bbs.jp/mbw/img0_13
http://bandito.web.infoseek.co.jp/cgi-bin/MnB/data/mb0559.jpg
http://bandito.web.infoseek.co.jp/cgi-bin/MnB/data/mb0560.jpg
http://bandito.web.infoseek.co.jp/cgi-bin/MnB/data/mb0563.jpg
http://bandito.web.infoseek.co.jp/cgi-bin/MnB/data/mb0564.jpg
http://bandito.web.infoseek.co.jp/cgi-bin/MnB/data/mb0566.jpg
http://bandito.web.infoseek.co.jp/cgi-bin/MnB/data/mb0567.jpg
http://bandito.web.infoseek.co.jp/cgi-bin/MnB/data/mb0629.jpg
That's not reason to why you guys using name of Kengeki and called "it's Official"
Yuias commented to JP-MOD forum yesteday. His comment is below.(I just trancerated)
Period.
Well, at first, up-to-date MP-Kengeki to 0.98 while waiting original release is really terrific solution though. because I'm loving Kengeki too.
Also I know get permissions for use resources are hard work if mod have many none-original resource. I have simmiler experience when I modding in TES4. I want to appreciate you.
But in other side, I worry about if his motivation is downed and quit development by this problem. I really afraid it because we lot of Japanese (and some foreigners of Anime fun which loving Original kengeki. I know some people loving NE-Kengeki still) expecting new version of release.
So I suggest about you guys better to rename this mod to another name(before Yuias get mad much more.)
in fact, it's shouldn't called Official kengeki, like Yuias said in above comment.
So how shades_o_gray know about reason to why it deleted?
Well, I won't ask whos send PM to MBR Admin for ban Original. but in fact, credits was on readme.txt on archive. also he said he doesen't using resources which indispensable contact and to get permission, like gutekfiutek's Polished Landscape mod. Check the archive of 0.95 if you have still.
So that's should be just mistake.
Again, I highly suggest just rename it and write up his name on credit immediately.
Best regards.
musyna
Recruit
Alright I see why you are not so happy, but if you look on the credit list on the first post Yuias is the first on the list. And nowhere does it say we are official anywhere...check the download link too. From reading some other post Yuias may have credited other people's work but did not ask permission to use them in his mod which is the key point here. Plus it's worse that he released as his own mod. Sorry but compiling parts of other mods and integrating them into your own mod is not really a mod and you cannot take much credit for it. Though I still gave him credit as being a catalyst of the project. We may change the name if he really feels strongly that he wants Kengeki as his own. I read on the 2ch site that swordsusa is seen as a hijacker of the mod. Think about it. Think about it real hard. I could take some other mod's resources then put them under a new name and change the names of the npc and it would be unique to me.
v_1
Recruit
Since Kengeki Yuias uploaded was deleted, I'm not in the position to judge the initial problem of proper credit usage, but
How your mod is different from this one? Yea I know, you and your team have tons of reason to blame me just saying this.
But so many mods, including Yuias's version and your version, hence the other popular mod including part of others work, given the proper credit/permission of course.
So, I'd ask you same. Think real hard of it. Original Kengeki was work of Yuias, however you think he is the one who wrapped up everything into the form of original Kengeki mod.
Thus you cannot simply takeover the name and call yourself as "We're official kengeki team". And I'm pretty sure there were some work actually done by Yuias him/herself.
You may be not intended to claim your team as official, but prolly because of language barrier it sounded like that way.
Again please think about it real hard as if you and yuias's position is reverted. Don't you feel your work have stolen?
The original file YOU uploaded has deleted due to the credit usage, which you thought made it clear and included into readme.txt.
Then someone in Japanese modding community releasing the mod with your name all of the sadden, which is based on YOUR work.
In other words, what do you feel if you notice I released modified version of your Mod by giving credit of you and your team but w/o contacting you, and same mod title in "other" modding community? And its happened after you noticed somehow your original files has been deleted.
As much as this post may looked like attack to your team, I not intended to offense you.
We don't even know who sent delete request to original kengeki in first place. And there's no way for us to check if that credit problem was real or not.
But given the condition, for me it looked like your team trying to takeover yuias's work. Not saying your team was intended to.
I cannot say this in regard of Japanese M&B community, I'm just one of em. But I'm rather empathized toward to Yuias.
As you might do to modder from your own country.
musyna 说:
How your mod is different from this one? Yea I know, you and your team have tons of reason to blame me just saying this.
But so many mods, including Yuias's version and your version, hence the other popular mod including part of others work, given the proper credit/permission of course.
So, I'd ask you same. Think real hard of it. Original Kengeki was work of Yuias, however you think he is the one who wrapped up everything into the form of original Kengeki mod.
Thus you cannot simply takeover the name and call yourself as "We're official kengeki team". And I'm pretty sure there were some work actually done by Yuias him/herself.
And
You may be not intended to claim your team as official, but prolly because of language barrier it sounded like that way.
Again please think about it real hard as if you and yuias's position is reverted. Don't you feel your work have stolen?
The original file YOU uploaded has deleted due to the credit usage, which you thought made it clear and included into readme.txt.
Then someone in Japanese modding community releasing the mod with your name all of the sadden, which is based on YOUR work.
In other words, what do you feel if you notice I released modified version of your Mod by giving credit of you and your team but w/o contacting you, and same mod title in "other" modding community? And its happened after you noticed somehow your original files has been deleted.
As much as this post may looked like attack to your team, I not intended to offense you.
We don't even know who sent delete request to original kengeki in first place. And there's no way for us to check if that credit problem was real or not.
But given the condition, for me it looked like your team trying to takeover yuias's work. Not saying your team was intended to.
I cannot say this in regard of Japanese M&B community, I'm just one of em. But I'm rather empathized toward to Yuias.
As you might do to modder from your own country.
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