Johnny Got His Gun (Movie)

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Just saw this movie in it's entirety for the first time and it was ****ing amazing, first movie that actually made me feel anything other than dissapointment in a long time.
 
krik 说:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Got_His_Gun_(film)
Just saw this movie in it's entirety for the first time and it was ****ing amazing, first movie that actually made me feel anything other than dissapointment in a long time.
 
That's kind of the whole point.
You can't really stray far from the original when you're making stuff off an anti war book. Well, you can but whatever.
 
I'd like that see that. It sounds obscure, though. How hard is it to find?
 
Doesn't seem that hard to get, really.
Metallica bought the rights to it so they could use the scenes in the One music video, by the way.
 
Yes, I love this movie, although, hate to use a cliché, but yes, the book was better.  The movie cuts out some of the best parts, actually.  It's interesting that the film was written and directed by the book's author, Dalton Trumbo.

I have the movie on VHS, and it comes on movie channels once in a blue moon.  It's well worth getting a hold of. 

Now the book is one of the most brilliant anti-war novels ever.  It's a brilliant novel period.  If you liked the movie, read the book.  Seriously.  Go pick it up.  Now.  Read it and you won't be disappointed.  My local bookstore told me they always have a copy on hand. 
 
No I totally would especially when he started begging for it literally. However it was written in 1938 so assisted suicide wouldn't have been what the author was trying to get across.
 
Yeah it would be complete hell I'd probably go insane in less than a week of conscious thought.
 
Tiberius Decimus Maximus 说:
Sounds like as much of an argument for assisted suicide as a anti-war film.

That doesn't seem to be Trumbo's intent really, and again, the movie did cut out a lot so I can see where people got that impression.  The strongest anti-war sentiments in the book are not in the movie, maybe because it'd be difficult to work them in cinematically.  For example, in the most prominent discussion, Joe suggests that dying for a cause like freedom or democracy is worthless and a lie.  He suggests war in general is folly and that politicians/leaders/generals dishonor the dead by foolishly speaking on their behalf.  The passage is quite brilliant, but again, nowhere in the movie.

Also, (possible spoilers): what happens to Joe?  Exactly.

Not to mention, since his request to be killed was denied, what did he want?  He wanted to be a tourist attraction, displayed all over the country.  Ron Kovic pointed out that he wanted to take his terrible condition and turn it into something beautiful. 

krik 说:
Yeah it would be complete hell I'd probably go insane in less than a week of conscious thought.

Well, here's the scary part: it was inspired by true events.  Two soldiers apparently had case studies performed.  The first only lived a couple of weeks, the other poor bastard, off of whom Trumbo took the most inspiration, lived something like 14 years.  I wish I could quote the article extract - I'll have to page through things again. 

Again though, Trumbo probably wasn't suggesting killing Joe was the solution.  He is suggesting Joe shouldn't have been there in the first place.  The novel is far more outspoken in that respect. 

Also again, seriously, pick up the book. 
 
The film is well known for distinguishing between Joe's reality and fantasy with black and white for the hospital, and color for his dreams and memories. His dreams are drug induced, like when he talks to his dead father and Christ, with the color being saturated. His memories are in a clearer color, like the fishing trip and his last night with Kareen. Joe's face is never seen in the hospital scenes, and his missing limbs are covered by hospital sheets.
I think I may have seen bits of it. It was a bit disturbing. May be I saw those bits while listening to Metallica's One.
 
Barry_bon_Loyale 说:
Also again, seriously, pick up the book. 
I'm actually looking for a downloadable version right now.
FrisianDude 说:
The film is well known for distinguishing between Joe's reality and fantasy with black and white for the hospital, and color for his dreams and memories. His dreams are drug induced, like when he talks to his dead father and Christ, with the color being saturated. His memories are in a clearer color, like the fishing trip and his last night with Kareen. Joe's face is never seen in the hospital scenes, and his missing limbs are covered by hospital sheets.
I think I may have seen bits of it. It was a bit disturbing. May be I saw those bits while listening to Metallica's One.
It is pretty ****ing disturbing, but that was the point.
 
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