"Japs" reputation and display, for instance in US

[Zaakjes]

So after the tsunami in Japan I noticed alot of notable things through the reactions worldwide. Apparently some Americans still seem to hate the Japanese for their acts in WW2. I personally wasn't aware of it before, however, I could've known it from 'Kenji' by Shinoda but I thought this idea would've died already.

So I would like to know from the Americans themselves what's happening and how much this kind of discrimination occurs. Are Japanese people who live in the US also suffering from it? Also, is "Jap" still an intolerable word?

I bet you guys can tell me most of it. 

 

[Aethelbert]

A lot of old people have historical reasons to hold a hatred of Japan. Japanese Pow camps were appalling.

 

[Zaakjes]

Well, as a Dutchman there's reason enough to hate the Germans for their acts. However, this is not happening, not even by elder people. I wonder what makes this situation different.

 

[Aethelbert]

Well, as a Dutchman there's reason enough to hate the Germans for their acts. However, this is not happening, not even by elder people. I wonder what makes this situation different.

Are you sure? Are the Dutch a hive mind?

 

[FrisianDude]

What kind of silly question is that?

He was equating your Japanese POW camps with general Nazi-Nastiness, how did you relate 'hive mind' to any of that?

 

[Seff]

No normal people hate the living Germans for what their (grand)parents did, and hating the Japanese for what theirs did is idiotic.

Americans wonder where they got this reputation of being stupid. >.>

 

[Cookie Eating Huskarl]

Aethelbert has always been silly in my silly eyes.

The generation that did not experience the pain first hand do not have the right to invoke historic factors into discrimination. That would be a disgrace.

 

[Aethelbert]

Well, as a Dutchman there's reason enough to hate the Germans for their acts. However, this is not happening, not even by elder people. I wonder what makes this situation different.

What kind of silly question is that?

He was equating your Japanese POW camps with general Nazi-Nastiness, how did you relate 'hive mind' to any of that?

Hive mind,I'm just wondering how someone can equate the entire national feeling of a nation of individuals. Its awesome to generalise right?

 

[Aethelbert]

We could broaden this question to should the German government pay reperations to Israel?

The generation that did not experience the pain first hand do not have the right to invoke historic factors into discrimination. That would be a disgrace.

 

[Wellenbrecher]

We could broaden this question to should the German government pay reperations to Israel?

The generation that did not experience the pain first hand do not have the right to invoke historic factors into discrimination. That would be a disgrace.

Have a look. Especially the nonsense at the bottom.

Israel has also sought large discounts on the purchase of two German-built MEKO warships

Way to go!

Anyhow, this has no place in this thread.

 

[Cookie Eating Huskarl]

If the reparations done by the guilty party in question, is in a sense an apology that can never be fulfilled, so be it. Whatever makes them sleep better at night. But it does not mean new generations of the used-to-be receiving party can label the blame of everything on past enemies.

I believe that the reparation agreement between Germany to Israel, and any other reparation agreement that is done after WWII (or WWI) to be the handiwork of the last generation and thus, will stay as a relic of the past, even if the contract itself extends into present day. Any further baseless claims for reparations will be just another disgrace to themselves.

 

[Aethelbert]

If the reparations done by the guilty party in question, is in a sense an apology that can never be fulfilled, so be it. Whatever makes them sleep better at night. But it does not mean new generations of the used-to-be receiving party can label the blame of everything on past enemies.

I believe that the reparation agreement between Germany to Israel, and any other reparation agreement that is done after WWII to be the handiwork of the last generation and thus, will stay as a relic of the past, even if it extends into the present day. Any further baseless claims for reparations will be just another disgrace to themselves.

The past is malleable. Every generation has its preoccupations and concerns and therefore looks for new things in the past and asks different questions.

 

[BattleOfValmy]

Our stupid people know how to computer, and they computer often, so we get an overabundance of their stupid.

 

[Cookie Eating Huskarl]

If the reparations done by the guilty party in question, is in a sense an apology that can never be fulfilled, so be it. Whatever makes them sleep better at night. But it does not mean new generations of the used-to-be receiving party can label the blame of everything on past enemies.

I believe that the reparation agreement between Germany to Israel, and any other reparation agreement that is done after WWII to be the handiwork of the last generation and thus, will stay as a relic of the past, even if it extends into the present day. Any further baseless claims for reparations will be just another disgrace to themselves.

The past is malleable. Every generation has its preoccupations and concerns and therefore looks for new things in the past and asks different questions.

Learn from the past, make a better future. Cling to the past, learn nothing.

Israel actively instill fears into their young by bringing them to a field trip to Poland to witness some of the senseless Nazi atrocities committed towards the Jews there. Some call it hate instilling. I partially agree with it, these kids will hate anything close to Nazis as they grow up. They will claim anything unknown to them will be anti-semantic, one way or another. They will claim that they can feel their ancestors' pain during the war and so gained a reason to hate and discriminate. Hell, a documentary I watched following one of these field trips have a couple of the silly crying kids claiming that some old people speaking polish to them at one of the memorial sites was being anti semantic. They were hell bent on the thought that these old men utterly hated them. People have to say something, people will have to justify themselves all the time. I'm no better for my prejudices.

To me, those people lost the purpose of this education. For me, I see the objective is to expose the future generation to past atrocities, so they do not lose sight on why Israel was formed in the first place. The continuous persecution of Jews whenever convenient will only end when their own sanctuary, complete with teeth and claw, is formed to negate all threats of further annihilation.

Edit : Edited a couple of sentences typed out too quickly.

 

[Catholic]

Each country has its idiots. The intelligent people in america don't hate the japanese, the idiots do. Simple as that.

 

[mournful]

Personally, I think it's more because of a perceived economic threat that Americans act this way. Pearl harbor gets thrown in as an excuse. But some people get very sensitive about things like the automotive industry. Parts of America like Detroit, that are falling apart get blamed on competition from overseas. In the late 80s- early 90s, there was a lot of fear around Japan buying up buildings and landmarks in the US. Some pundits back then were saying they would surpass the US. Once Japan had a land value crash and it became apparent those fears weren't true, much of the paranoia died down.

 

[Mage246]

I've never met anyone who still holds a grudge about WW2. As Catholic said above, maybe some idiots do but that's it. As always, the media searches out these idiots and so that's all foreigners hear about.

 

[Tuckles]

Just to add my two cents, IMO the Philippines (and most other countries under the Japanese sphere of influence) have (well had) more reason to hate the Japanese because of World War II than the United States, and applying that logic, have every reason to hate Spain (and even the US) as well.

Does the average Filipino (we're a poor/uneducated country, so the average person is uneducated) hate any of these countries? Not at all. In fact, the opposite is generally true.

I don't see why anybody should be hatin' on someone for what their grampappy or great grampappy did aeons ago.

 

[Mr Mohawk]

So after the tsunami in Japan I noticed alot of notable things through the reactions worldwide. Apparently some Americans still seem to hate the Japanese for their acts in WW2. I personally wasn't aware of it before, however, I could've known it from 'Kenji' by Shinoda but I thought this idea would've died already.

So I would like to know from the Americans themselves what's happening and how much this kind of discrimination occurs. Are Japanese people who live in the US also suffering from it? Also, is "Jap" still an intolerable word?

I bet you guys can tell me most of it. 

Not reading anything other than the OP...

But isn't it ironic that after the reactors went haywire all the Americans start bringing out the racism when THEY were the ones who NUKED Japan :/

 

[Icey Fresh Werewolf]

But isn't it ironic that after the reactors went haywire all the Americans start bringing out the racism when THEY were the ones who NUKED Japan :/

Only some idiots actually have this type of mindset that Japan deserves the tsunami and the earthquake. Keyword=idiots. Idiots normally do not listen to any reasoning, or at least idiots of this magnitude.