It's in EA... Should it excuse "everything"?

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My philosophy is that an EA being sold for money should not be expected to have all the features already implemented but those that it does should work perfectly and be a boon to the overall experience.
 
All of your complaints were addressed here on the steam page EA disclaimer and other places. So maybe read before you buy something?



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WHAT THE DEVELOPERS HAVE TO SAY:
Why Early Access?
“Early access is something that we are very familiar with: our first title, Mount & Blade, helped to pioneer this method of release back in 2005. By working alongside our community we were able to deliver a unique gaming experience that players still enjoy to this day. These past experiences have taught us that it is vital to bring players in to help us iron out any issues and refine the game by utilizing feedback to bring it to the level that both our community and we expect.

We are hoping to run a productive and efficient early access for M&B Bannerlord as well. However, due to the nature and scale of game that we have envisioned, there may be various problems or missing features and content during the course of early access. Here are a few aspects you may need to know:

Unique Maps for Towns, Castles and Village: Although we plan to create unique maps for every town and castle in the game, it is a rather arduous process to create that many well designed maps and as such, different locations may share the same map during early access.

Quest Content: A portion of planned quests may be missing entirely, and those in the game may be using placeholder maps, animations, etc.

Balancing: Various aspects of the game may be poorly balanced. Parts of the game may be too easy or too hard.

Voice overs: Since the game uses a lot of dynamic text and hundreds of NPCs, we are planning to record voice-overs for only a limited subset of the dialog (greetings, companion introductions and main quest). Some of these planned voice overs may be missing or using placeholder versions during EA.

Savegames: We will strive to keep savegame compatibility during EA, however it may be technically infeasible to provide 100% backward compatibility in savegames and you may occasionally have to start a new game after updating to a new version.

Bugs and glitches: Although we strive to create a stable game experience, the game will be actively developed during early access and hence there will be a greater chance of bugs and glitches creeping up. It will of course be a priority to fix these.

Localization: Our current plan is to localize the game into the following languages: French, Italian, German, Japanese, Korean, Polish, Brazilian Portuguese, Russian, Simplified Chinese, Spanish (Latin American) and Turkish. Other languages may be added later. During EA, localizations for these languages may be missing entirely or may be incomplete.

Multiplayer modes and features: The game currently supports several popular multiplayer modes, but we are planning to add more modes and features, possibly including ranked matchmaking.

Singleplayer Features: Several planned single player features may be missing or incomplete. These include but are not limited to: full game controller support, some skill and perk effects, crafting, some aspects of sieges, and clan, army and kingdom management.

Developing M&B Bannerlord has been, and continues to be a fabulous experience for us, and we are excited to be walking the final phase of this journey together with our players. Of course, you may prefer to wait a little bit longer and hold off until the final, finished product. In this case, please consider adding the game to your wishlist and you’ll receive an email when we release the full version.”Approximately how long will this game be in Early Access?
“While we do not have a set date for a full release at this moment in time, we expect that the game will be in early access for around a year. Our focus is on ensuring that the game is fun and enjoyable rather than imposing a deadline that might have a negative impact on the final product.”How is the full version planned to differ from the Early Access version?
“The early access version of the game contains a wealth of content that will keep players engaged for many hours. While the early access version is very much stable and playable, players can expect to run into some obscure bugs and other issues while playing that we intend to locate and fix before the full release.

The early access version will be reusing scenes for different towns, may lack some supporting features, may have a limited number of quests, voice-overs, etc. and may lack localizations for some languages.

Throughout the course of the early access period we intend to introduce the missing supporting features, such as, rebellions, kingdom creation and weapon crafting, while expanding and enhancing many of the existing features that are outlined below.”What is the current state of the Early Access version?
“In terms of content, the early access version of the game contains all of the main staples of the Mount & Blade experience, with a host of content that is new to the series. Players can create their own character using the game’s character creation system; explore the continent of Calradia; gather their own warband of troops; command and fight alongside their troops in large scale battles using the game’s extensive command system and intuitive skill-based directional combat system; raid settlements; lay siege to and capture enemy towns and castles; trade items and goods using the game’s deep economy system; engage in politics and diplomacy; manage their own clan; upgrade and manage settlements; gather armies and wage war; and much, much more... all in a vast singleplayer sandbox setting where no two playthroughs are the same. The early access version also includes fully supported multiplayer game modes for players to test their combat skills and tactical prowess against players from all over the world.”Will the game be priced differently during and after Early Access?
“There is no plan to change pricing after early access.”How are you planning on involving the Community in your development process?
“We intend to use a range of different methods to gather player feedback and data throughout the early access period. These include engaging with users directly on our official forum and our Steam forum, requesting specific feedback through questionnaires, hosting and participating in multiplayer events alongside our community, and using analytics tools to gather data.”
 
There is plenty to talk about, you just have to find what interests you, Like I did. Turns out the most interesting thing for you is all this: "es, EA is a valid excuse because it clearly states that the game is in a unfinished and unpolished state, you bought it because you wanted." "You just edited your post with those "5 words" after you got some replies that you didn't like."
So you could now have the power to drive the conversation into something else, but you're actively choosing not to, even though I'm encouraging you to do so.
You didn't discuss anything you laid out what you don't like. It's a laundry list of your grievances nothing else. It doesn't help TW, the game or anyone but you.
 
You didn't discuss anything you laid out what you don't like. It's a laundry list of your grievances nothing else. It doesn't help TW, the game or anyone but you.
If that's what you choose to focus on, I won't stop you. It's too much to ask for you too understand my point of view apparently.
 
Jesus dude can you at least spoiler it?



And thus he opened a discussion. That's how things are done is it not?
"The Citadel - General Discussion"
Not "Oh hes saying ****" "Hey you stop saying ****" - Is as far as most people can go I guess.

All of your complaints were addressed here on the steam page EA disclaimer and other places. So maybe read before you buy something?

"EA... Sure. I accept that" -ME

back at you.
 
I don't think so, he didn't make any suggestion or proposed any solutions, he even said MP is bad even though he didn't even played it.
So find a way to make that a fun discussion rather then being a funt
I've already made a multitude of suggestions. you are not choosing to pay attention.
 
He could start by making a real discussion about the issues and how he would like to see them fixed. Not a laundry list. One way takes thought and effort and the other is just plain venting.
Sorry, not a coder. Make this not like this, is as far as I can go RN. You choosing to see it that way is all on you. Now stop complaining about how I said things, leave this post or say something fun and interesting about the game, or what you didn't like or your experiences
 
the game have serius issues in curent state.
but its from all aspect better than warband. big problem is performance, i wonder, the out of dated graphic appearance why must have such low performance.
i hope improve till final release.
 
I don't think so, he didn't make any suggestion or proposed any solutions, he even said MP is bad even though he didn't even played it.

Does he have to? He is giving feedback by saying something is poor, either people can agree or disagree, that's how discussions work as far as I know. And most of the stuff he's pointed out is things I've experienced too.

Why seems he missed it the first time around when buying the game, if i hid it behind a spoiler maybe he would miss it again.

Well in that case could you at least highlight the parts that are relevant to what he missed? Because again as far as I can see nothing he's pointed out is stated to be fixed or released or a feature to be amended in early access. Most of these same issues were present in Warband and haven't been fixed since Warband so I doubt early access will fix it either.

He could start by making a real discussion about the issues and how he would like to see them fixed. Not a laundry list. One way takes thought and effort and the other is just plain venting.

Same response as Crossbow Pig above.

Either way I'm on this dude's side, he's brought up valid shortcomings in the game that I thought would at least be fixed seeing as they were issues in Warband as well. They aren't on the list of "known" issues or "missing early access features" so I think he's in the right place to bring them up.
 
Sorry, not a coder. Make this not like this, is as far as I can go RN. You choosing to see it that way is all on you. Now stop complaining about how I said things, leave this post or say something fun and interesting about the game, or what you didn't like or your experiences

Didn't you uninstall already - byeee
 
I'll start us off again...
Starting us off in the same spot each time no matter the nation pick seems out of place.

I feel as if the faction buffs need re-balancing because some of them are useless in my opinion
 
Sorry, not a coder. Make this not like this, is as far as I can go RN. You choosing to see it that way is all on you. Now stop complaining about how I said things, leave this post or say something fun and interesting about the game, or what you didn't like or your experiences
Wtf does being a coder have to do with saying "here's a problem that I'm having here's how I'd like to see it fixed"?

LOL I didn't start this "discussion" you did. I responding with my opinion just like you. If you can't take the heat...
 
Wtf does being a coder have to do with saying "here's a problem that I'm having here's how I'd like to see it fixed"?

LOL I didn't start this "discussion" you did. I responding with my opinion just like you. If you can't take the heat...
You said "how he would like to see them fixed" I assumed you ment how to fix it. You don't need to be hostile.
 
I'll start us off again...
Starting us off in the same spot each time no matter the nation pick seems out of place.

I feel as if the faction buffs need re-balancing because some of them are useless in my opinion

I'll help you out here and say that I think this is a placeholder that we spawn in the same area, or at least I hope so too.

I don't think the culture passives are even active right now. Which ones do you think are useless?
 
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