It has not been 8 years...

[Hero_of_Ferelden]

The gameplay in this video is using the current engine from just over 4 years ago. Lust stated they planned on releasing in some form by the end of 2016. Something has very clearly gone wrong behind the scenes at TW even after they supposedly started their engine from scratch.

 

[Madae]

Something has very clearly gone wrong

Take a step back and ask yourself what purpose this kind of useless speculation serves other than drumming up more hatred over the state of a game you're seemingly disappointed with. News flash; TW owes you nothing. They clearly stated the game was in early access before you bought it, meaning the game would need much more development. Sorry it didn't meet your expectations. Make your suggestions and move along. It's not the end of the world. The game is not going to miraculously be in a better state that you're satisfied with after you get done whining about it here. Find something more constructive to do until it gets to that point.

 

[Worldsprayer]

Just to clear up some misconceptions, it has not been 8 years in devolopment. TaleWorlds has restarted multiple times throughout the devolopment phase to build their own engine, and anybody that knows how devolopment works, knows that that is quite an undertaking, especially for such a small studio as theirs.
Also, if your still upset at the state of the game, remember that it is in EARLY ACCESS for a reason, so that bugs can tested and fixed for the full release. If you read the announcement, it’s pretty clear that issues were gonna be present, they have already worked on and currently working on these issues. Regarding the price, no one made you buy it lol, so if your upset that you paid 50 for an unfinished game, thats on you.
I have all my trust in TaleWorlds to make this game as good as it can be, I trusted them with warband, and they delivered. If you have criticism, then by all means state it, but if it’s straight up complaining and whining without stating a reason why and telling us you have refunded the game, your helping no body. We as a gamer community must be better then this.

If this was the full game, then I’d understand all the hate, but it’s not, its ea.

I would disagree, it HAS been 8 years in development. The current version we have now however has not.

 

[Worldsprayer]

I am working in software development (not games though) and I can see a project like bannerlord taking 8 years if it's done by a small team (5-10 people) that is building everything from scratch.

However, I was surprised to find out from Wikipedia that taleworlds has 102 employees (as of 2016). I'm not sure for how long they've employed so many people, but 8 years with 100+ employees is too much no matter how you look at it. Probably very poor time and task management.

TW is also subsidized by the Turkish government, relatively little incentive to actually produce a product immediately unlike in the west. Throw in the arabaic concept of enshala which effectively translates to "when god wills", and you find the normal issues of software development massively enhanced and worsened.

 

[Madae]

TW is also subsidized by the Turkish government, relatively little incentive to actually produce a product immediately unlike in the west. Throw in the arabaic concept of enshala which effectively translates to "when god wills", and you find the normal issues of software development massively enhanced and worsened.

Just in case this thread needed to be even more ridiculous, we have this guy.

 

[Worldsprayer]

Just in case this thread needed to be even more ridiculous, we have this guy.

Lol sorry to stab some reality at you. They ARE subsidized, and the culture of that entire country, an incredibly fundamental muslim nation, emphasizes that concept. I've dealt with a number of turks and there is an interesting mindset you HAVE to have when dealing with what we see as disregard for schedules/appointments.
I'm not being xeno or racist, just pointing out some significant issues. If a company doesnt have to earn every dollar directly, then its incentive to produce rapidly drops, much like welfare does. The two issues combine are frustrating indeed.

 

[Madae]

Lol sorry to stab some reality at you. They ARE subsidized, and the culture of that entire country, an incredibly fundamental muslim nation, emphasizes that concept. I've dealt with a number of turks and there is an interesting mindset you HAVE to have when dealing with what we see as disregard for schedules/appointments.
I'm not being xeno or racist, just pointing out some significant issues. If a company doesnt have to earn every dollar directly, then its incentive to produce rapidly drops, much like welfare does. The two issues combine are frustrating indeed.

I'm going to totally believe your garbage because I'm definitely Turkish and Muslim and I work for both the government and TW and I know exactly what you're talking about!

 

[Hero_of_Ferelden]

Take a step back and ask yourself what purpose this kind of useless speculation serves other than drumming up more hatred over the state of a game you're seemingly disappointed with. News flash; TW owes you nothing. They clearly stated the game was in early access before you bought it, meaning the game would need much more development. Sorry it didn't meet your expectations. Make your suggestions and move along. It's not the end of the world. The game is not going to miraculously be in a better state that you're satisfied with after you get done whining about it here. Find something more constructive to do until it gets to that point.

Interesting that you deduced that from me simply commenting on the fact that they planned to release it in 2016. What I think of the game is irrelevant in this discussion. There's a 4 year gap between planned release and actual release. They clearly ****ed up massively, either underestimating the task at hand or something else entirely.

 

[Madae]

Interesting that you deduced that from me simply commenting on the fact that they planned to release it in 2016. What I think of the game is irrelevant in this discussion. There's a 4 year gap between planned release and actual release. They clearly ****ed up massively, either underestimating the task at hand or something else entirely.

All you just did is say the exact same thing again, but with different words. You point out your opinion is irrelevant (which it is), and then proceed to bash both the game and TW with more unfounded speculation, that again serves no purpose whatsoever. That isn't constructive.

 

[Hero_of_Ferelden]

How am I bashing the game? It's in a pretty good state for an EA game.

It's not speculation. Planned for 2016, comes out in 2020. Doesn't take a genius to figure out that something went wrong in between.

 

[Bjorn The Broken]

 

[PlaskiJakDeska]

TaleWorlds, move your studio to Poland. You will receive grants from the government as gamedev is considered here by law as an "artist job". CDPR and Techland got couple of million from the government. CDPR received 7 Million, not sure how much Techland received.

 

[Madae]

How am I bashing the game? It's in a pretty good state for an EA game.

It's not speculation. Planned for 2016, comes out in 2020. Doesn't take a genius to figure out that something went wrong in between.

The entire point of your posts implies that there is something wrong with the game, otherwise you wouldn't care that 4 more years went by, and you wouldn't keep saying they screwed up somehow.