Is there a counter to mamlukes?

[Aelok]

...besides more mamlukes.

I mean really, these guys are ridiculously overpowered. They level quickly (or just require a lower level than other units to become awesome), every Sarranid roles with 15+ (sometimes 40+), have amazing equipment, have great mounts, have high riding skills, hell they have elite skills all around.

Even on foot these guys are beasts. My army of Nord Huscarls were getting cut down at an amazing rate from just TWO of these guys during a castle siege. I was losing a huscarl or two every 3 seconds, meanwhile we're getting no kills simply because the huscarls were getting mowed down by two mamlukes holding the front line.

My army of ~20 Mamlukes, ~30 Huscarls, ~20 Rhodok Sharpshooters, ~20 Vaegir Marksmen, 9 amazingly equipped and highish level companions, and ~40 elite other units were cut down by an enemy army with ~100 trash filler units but 60-75 mamlukes...

Nothing stands against these guys, at least nothing I've tried. I thought "Hey, spears stop horses in their tracks, i'll get Rhodok spearmen (whatever the name is for their elite lvl spearman is)" but no... I raised ~35 of these and they all got murdered extremely fast by ~15 mamlukes.

They're the best cavalry and foot troop, and don't even have to worry about archers since my lvl 6 powerdraw with best archery equipment available does 10 damage to them when I shoot them in the back. I'm seriously considered dropping all units and getting an army of entirely mamlukes if they're this overpowered...

Lucky me, I chose to assist Arwa the Pearled One in reclaiming her throne. My enemy is the most overpowered unit in the game.

 

[Seawied86]

...besides more mamlukes.

****. you beat me to it 

Bare in mind, they are only the best in their element: open field cavalry combat. They are quiet weak on foot.

 

[dragoon47]

As for the books, cheatmenu.

As for the Mamlukes, you'll need to lure them out and destroy them with Swadian Knights, or get a good bow skill and target them on the walls of a castle.

 

[Aelok]

HA! One of my ally lords chased down an enemy lord with only 30 troops left, I rush in despite only having ~3 decent troops (my ally out numbered him anyways), and once we win I looted my books back and one of my weapons! Guess I didn't get screwed as badly as I thought!

I'd also like to note that this enemy lord only had about 30 troops total but only 23 that could fight. there were 12 mamlukes in his army that could fight... over 50% of his army was mamlukes! RRRAAAAAAAAGGEE >.<

 

[Cro]

I hit them a lot until they die.  Seriously, I had to make it a priority to personally kill Mamlukes before they owned my army.  All other Sarranid units are crap, so I concentrated on the dangerous Mamlukes.

I took out the Sarranid faction first, so I had a lot of practice.  Then I had to fight the Sarranid lords who emigrated to other factions... so I had a lot more practice killing Mamlukes.

Oddly enough, thrown piercing weapons work really well.  If you go for thrown weapons, Jarids do a lot of damage.  The range is very short but at high levels of power throw you can one-shot a Mamluke.  Kind of convenient when they are just a little too far away to hit. 

Mounted, they seem to be about as good as Swadian Knights (although they seem to have less armor) for less money.  However, their horses die just the same...(hint hint) 

On foot they aren't all that.  I use them myself a lot, and they are not as good as Nord Huscarls.  They'll do OK, but they don't have the toughness nor do they hit as hard.

 

[mrdang]

mamlukes like most elite tiered units will plug up the ladder at the top and you wont realize it until after youve lost 5 guys in a row the best way to KO them in a siege is to pull your infantry back and archers forward for a while.

any infantry blob will immobilize mamlukes... after a few casualties upon impact unfortunately. really cant promise your men that theyll all live through a battle against sarranids :X

 

[tbj28]

I agree that mamlukes are abit strong, but the rest of their troops are kinda piss poor... the way i deal with Mamlukes attacking my castle/town is to only hit mamlukes with crossbows... no other unit then you make em alot less dangerous when they reach the top of the ladder.

 

[Old One-Eye]

If possible - separate them from the rest of their troops, lure them to charge into your tightly packed infantry blob, order your infantry to charge as soon as they make contact and hit them simultaneously - hard - with your cavalry from the side or from behind. Preferably with your archers a way back (or even better, on a flank) raining death into any Mameluk that exits the kill zone. You not only want to kill them, you want to kill them fast.

This is at least how I deal with all big fights and I'm the first to admit that it doesn't always work out. But it's a solid tactic that will get you through. It's really important that your cavalry and infantry hit the main opposing force from different directions.

 

[lspnicol]

Mamluke,the  most dangerous unit in field battle,can only be effectively countered with elite mounted units,say Swadian Knights or Mamlukes.

Compared with Swadian Knights,Mamlukes are cheaper(result in more Mamlukes),faster,and thus much deadlier.

Equipped with lance,morningstar,and war horse,they may easily one-hit heavy armored units,say players and companions^^

 

[Mastermind]

Mamlukes are overpowered. I refer from my earlier statement that they're not simply because I've compared their stats now and I see that they are the strongest and best-equipped unit but cost less and need less xp than Swadian Knights. Why?

 

[Theodoriph]

Mamlukes are overpowered. I refer from my earlier statement that they're not simply because I've compared their stats now and I see that they are the strongest and best-equipped unit but cost less and need less xp than Swadian Knights. Why?

Because the Swadian Sergeant and Swadian Sharpshooter are much better than the Sarranid Guard and Sarranid Master Archer. You have to look at the balance with regards to the faction, not the individual units.

 

[The exceeding arrow]

They are quiet weak on foot.

they are quiet strong in ground melee combat they got strong Armour and good weapons

 

[Boyar]

Mamlukes are overpowered. I refer from my earlier statement that they're not simply because I've compared their stats now and I see that they are the strongest and best-equipped unit but cost less and need less xp than Swadian Knights. Why?

Because the Swadian Sergeant and Swadian Sharpshooter are much better than the Sarranid Guard and Sarranid Master Archer. You have to look at the balance with regards to the faction, not the individual units.

It would make the most perfect sence in the history if the ratio of swadian knights and mamelukes in battles would be 1:1 and not armies spammed with the mamelukes against a few knights.

 

[Theodoriph]

Mamlukes are overpowered. I refer from my earlier statement that they're not simply because I've compared their stats now and I see that they are the strongest and best-equipped unit but cost less and need less xp than Swadian Knights. Why?

Because the Swadian Sergeant and Swadian Sharpshooter are much better than the Sarranid Guard and Sarranid Master Archer. You have to look at the balance with regards to the faction, not the individual units.

It would make the most perfect sence in the history if the ratio of swadian knights and mamelukes in battles would be 1:1 and not armies spammed with the mamelukes against a few knights.

No...that wouldn`t make much sense at all. Then the Swadians would have lots of knights and lots of good infantry.



Edit: As an aside, I don`t see the problem in this thread. The guy took on at least two lords who had a superior army  to his and lost. That should happen. =P

 

[Lueii]

My swadian knights massacare Mamalukes.  One on one, Sarranids win.  But wih equal numbers swadians they suck.  They get in each others way etc.  Just get Swadians.

 

[nood]

According to the Sarah Connor Chronicles the best counter to the T-888 is to remove their CPU.
I'm sure if you get really close to a Mamluke, and live to tell the tale, you will see a Cyberdyne Systems logo on them.

I don't really find them too bad as a unit, but the Sarranids just seem to have too many, certainly compared with say the Nords elite troops.

 

[Theodoriph]

According to the Sarah Connor Chronicles the best counter to the T-888 is to remove their CPU.
I'm sure if you get really close to a Mamluke, and live to tell the tale, you will see a Cyberdyne Systems logo on them.

I don't really find them too bad as a unit, but the Sarranids just seem to have too many, certainly compared with say the Nords elite troops.

The more sensible view is that the Nords do not have enough

 

[Mikan]

They are quiet weak on foot.

they are quiet strong in ground melee combat they got strong Armour and good weapons

Replace 'quite strong' with 'one of the best'.

 

[Silverchain]

If you are using Swadian troops, use Men-at-Arms instead of Knights.  Cheaper, quicker, and only slightly less effective.  Once you and your companions are mounted on Chargers and you have forty or fifty Men-at-Arms with you, Marmalades (and anything else) should more or less cease to be a problem; they did for me, and I'm not a talented player. 

 

[sanis]

Same as above poster.
Facing mamluke armies means me losing 7 or so more men than i usually do. Since i also use men at arms replacing them is not a problem.