ancalimon said:
Amagic said:
Jesus... was Turkish?
Oh for crying out loud...
No that's not what I think.
I think Jesus was created during the
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea by Konstantin.
His true name was not Christ, he was a Turk and a believer in Tengri-Eternal Blue Sky.
His deeds were taken, combined with Tengri and was shaped into a human God.
This secret should be hidden inside Neo-Greek culture. There must be some kind of joke in which they say "Jesus is a Turk" to make fun of this. Any Greek know of such a joke?
Read these book for an insight:
http://www.adji.ru/book10_3.html (Tengri-Khan and Christ, His Foster Son)
http://www.adji.ru/book11_1.html (search for the part: The Turkis and Christianity)
Found something about a joke about Christ being a Turk in Neo-Greek culture
http://foodforthethoughtless.com/2008/02/the-easter-egg/
Easter
Style
The traditions involving the Greek Easter egg are much different from our own, and much more no-nonsense than, say, the Russians’. The Russian Easter egg is far too expensive to be produced yearly, but they are a good investment if you have the money. The Greeks don’t bother to hide their eggs. Why hide food you know you’re going to eat later?
Unless, of course, one is re-enacting an historical event and therefore hiding it from the Turks or the Germans. No, they just dye them blood red and put them in the middle of their dinner table. There’s more to it than that, of course. There’s a power game involved.
What it all means.
The red coloring of the eggs represents the Blood of Christ to the Greeks. It is a fortunate coincidence that they are also highly attractive.
The cracking of the egg is meant to symbolize Christ breaking out of his tomb as he rises from the dead. If this is true, it remains to me uncertain why the person with the uncracked egg is favored. If there is a crack anywhere, it is in the logic of this game. Perhaps the others are simply masking their grief for the damned soul of someone who is now certain never rise to heaven.
If you decide to play the game but are somewhat uncomfortable with so much Jesus talk, you might try substituting your own ritual call-and-response during the game. Something non-religious, yet still meaningful. One person shouting out a love for corduroy while his challenger announces his preference for suede is one such suggestion. I find the Greek tradition of being in such strong verbal agreement with each other while engaging in such aggressive behavior unconvincing and lacking in any real dramatic tension. I suppose if the first person shouted out the usual
“Christ is risen!” and the second person responded, “No, I think he’s still napping” or “Christ was a Turk”, there might be some real tension. It is undoubtedly to my own advantage that I don’t know how to say those things in Greek. It might be exciting to witness, nevertheless.
Surprise?
Unless, of course, one is re-enacting an historical event and therefore hiding it from the Turks or the Germans.
What does he mean by saying the usual “Christ was a Turk” ? Is this a common joke among Christians?
These are all ancient Turkic mythology combined with weird stuff and converted into a stupid game. Life started from an egg according to these ancient myths. These are pseudo-scientific (but still existing) stuff about Atlantis, Mu, etc.. Earth was of endless waters inside en egg. From the waters, Ak Ana (White Mother) ordered Ülgen to create and Tengri created life. The egg broke and Earth came to existence. This is what the Egyptians, Uyghur, Chinese, Ogurs call the Cosmic Egg. According to pseudoscientific theories about Mu and Atlantis, Uyghurs and some of the Native Americans were the only surviving people. Uyghurs being the main people and Uyghurs recreated civilization. That's why Egyptians (in Africa) and Uyghur and Ogurs (Uyghurs that migrated North also connected to old Bulgars) have the same mythologies. The Oghuz converted to Islam and made some kind of Iconoclasm on their own mythology. They converted their remaining mythologies into Islamised versions.
AK ANA (WHITE MOTHER) BAY ÜLGEN (MR. CREATOR?) (really lol) OD ANA (MOTHER OF HOLY FIRE)
SEMRUK and BÜRKÜT symbolized Sun and Moon, Masculine and Feminine. Upwards pointing triangle (üç(3), kuş(bird)) was the male and downwards pointing triangle was the female. These were the first Ying Yang in the world. They are all over rocks together with other Turkic tamgas.
Tengri orders to burn 3 fires in the human soul and Od Ana buries and puts out three fires to Earth. Today we call this "Cemre" the fire falls to Air, Earth and Water every year. (this entered Egyptians via Turks not Islam! why am I the first person telling you these? Because these things are taboo in most of Turkic culture that's open the the rest of the world.)
The ÖKSÖKÖ bird brings down lightning from the Heavens and this lightning carries human soul in OZ (unshaped energy with a purpose and desire carrying the will of Tengri) form to Earth with rain which in return creates human bodies and humans themselves.
did anyone read these books? "Black Athena" & "Black Athena Writes Back: Martin Bernal Responds to Critics"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Athena
