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[RainbowPower]

how do u get married >.<   
btw great mod, cant seem to get off the computer now

 

[RainbowPower]

Oh and if im not part of the staff people for the mod thingie am i still aloud to use this doohiki below my name?

 

[Komnenos]

Show me those chronicles, because I don't really believe it. As far as I know, they are always called Rhomaioi, which means Romans, not Romanians.

As for Latin sources, in early sources they are Romani (Romans) or Graeci (Greeks). Romanians might be a way to refer to the inhabitants of Rhomania, but not the usual way to speak of them. This usual way was, from the XIIth Century ownwards, Greeks in the West and Romans in the East.

As I said, every single chronicle.
I cannot show those chronicles to you, because I doubt you know cyrillic writing.
We didn't called them Rhomaioi because we didn't write on Latin or Greek language, so Rhomaioi doesn't mean anything in Old Serbian/Church Slavonic.
We called them Romejci (Rhomeians) and Romanijci (Romanians) - ''jci'' roughly means ''ans''.

Why we called them these names? I know not. But as I said, they didn't call us with their our real name, and we didn't call them with their real name - everybody is happy.
The Romans even called us Dalmatians, long after we didn't have anything to do with Dalmatia, and Tribalians, even if Tribalians are supposed to be, so called ,,ancient inhabitants of Balkans'' - the source for that: every single chronicle.

On Graeco-Roman matter, a couple of notions...

1. It seems that since ancient time people living beside Aegean were quite neglecting to people of the north of Balkans and any "barbarian". But actually these nord/east newcomers have been the demographic reserve, as they themselves were envious for the culture and markets... Once a man is born greek he feels free to call somebody Tribalius (a thracian tribe), Servius ("the one who serves", for Serbians), Voulgaros ("dull, raw оr arid", for Bulgarian) and so on... And now we address whole nations likewise only because these ill-precised terms were put down on paper. The chroniclers were close to the truth just once - they called the newcomers "sklavinioi" which comes from the considered slavic words "slovo" (meaninig "word") and "sloveni" ("speaking people", unlike the "nemec" word, used for germans, meaning "deaf-and-dumb").

2. Actually the bulgarian language says "[rome'i]" which is quite close to the haevily diphtongous and hellenistically sophisticated "rhomaioi" [rome'e]. I see that Serbian does smth similar too ...

3. Gypsies founded Rome as much as the Copts did. At least the last were really of egyptic origin.

4. I think you all know that Roman empire never perished as we still live in Capitolian dictate...

5. Do you know what one of Sir Steven Runciman's followers once said?: "History is going to be kind to me as I intend to write it."

 

[Serbian]

"Slovo" does not mean word it means single letter(character,symbol...)

 

[Mykami]

"Slovo" does not mean word it means single letter(character,symbol...)

In Russian it does. "Слово" is pretty much the direct translation for "word".

 

[Komnenos]

"Slovo" does not mean word it means single letter(character,symbol...)

In Russian it does. "Слово" is pretty much the direct translation for "word".

Thank you for your support, the traditional resolving of Balkan problems usually comes in russian  . Anyway, as you got in this thread, Mykami... Do you have any new drawings planned for loading screes? Just curious...

 

[Mykami]

Planned? All of them. Doing? Not right now.

 

[Cèsar de Quart]

Whoa, loading screens... but those would take a lot of time and effort.

And it's 1200, so aiming to conflicts or issues of that time would be pretty much the thing. Scenarios like 1204's Siege of Constantinople, the battle in Brittany between King John and his rebellious vassals, in 1201, the battle of Las Navas in 1212 between the allied kings of Castille, Aragon, Navarra, and the Almohad Caliph; the siege of Château Gaillard, where John Lackland faced King Philippe and lost the keep to the French...

What are you ideas, Mykami, if I may ask?

 

[Mykami]

Just in general. I read the question like "will you do them?" actually, and I myself have no extensive knowledge over any certain battles or whatnot. Do hope to get to loading screens tho, even if it would be certainly the last thing and there really is no point in discussing them now. But I indeed think that historical battles in loading screens is a great idea.

 

[quapitty]

Just in general. I read the question like "will you do them?" actually, and I myself have no extensive knowledge over any certain battles or whatnot. Do hope to get to loading screens tho, even if it would be certainly the last thing and there really is no point in discussing them now. But I indeed think that historical battles in loading screens is a great idea.

Yes but even if it doesn't come that far (it's a lot of work...) the drawings You did, I saw, would make a very fine match for loading screens already. F.e. 'Brytenwalda' unfortunately is not the best example for good loading screen layout (no offense!). I think Your drawings could give 1200 something like a 'corporate identity'.

 

[Mykami]

Yes but even if it doesn't come that far (it's a lot of work...) the drawings You did, I saw, would make a very fine match for loading screens already. F.e. 'Brytenwalda' unfortunately is not the best example for good loading screen layout (no offense!). I think Your drawings could give 1200 something like a 'corporate identity'.

Good to hear that. I will surely try to get that far.

Funny thing about Brytenwalda: when I first tried the mod i thought "Hey, you can insert images in mods, i wonder if I can do anything with that. Also people on these photos look incredibly silly, and I can't help but think actual celts and picts looked like this."

 

[Cèsar de Quart]

Yes but even if it doesn't come that far (it's a lot of work...) the drawings You did, I saw, would make a very fine match for loading screens already. F.e. 'Brytenwalda' unfortunately is not the best example for good loading screen layout (no offense!). I think Your drawings could give 1200 something like a 'corporate identity'.

I'd love that. Especially counting on such a talented artist as Mykami!

 

[Cruger]

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[Prince_Eugen]

It sad because i played a lot on older version,and all my achievements will be lost.

 

[Lord Rust]

It sad because i played a lot on older version,and all my achievements will be lost.

Oh quit your whining, I had that happen to me about fifteen times over multiple versions this damn week alone

 

[Prince_Eugen]

It sad because i played a lot on older version,and all my achievements will be lost.

Oh quit your whining, I had that happen to me about fifteen times over multiple versions this damn week alone

Thanks you for support!

 

[tbendis]

It sad because i played a lot on older version,and all my achievements will be lost.

Oh quit your whining, I had that happen to me about fifteen times over multiple versions this damn week alone

Thanks you for support!

He's right...

 

[tarabostu]

They were Romans, not Romanians. There's a big difference. And I think the name "Romanian" is a XVIIIth Century thing, a way to call this "new nation" fromed out of Vlachs and other peoples (which is highly discussed and unclear, but I bet on artificial national creation).

That's why, if anything, he would be "King of Vlachs", which was for some time a title held by Bulgarian tsars, if I'm not mistaken.


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I have updated with new signatures for the rest of existing factions.

first of all hello people! i miss my comp. back home and i miss my mount and blade.
regarding our name:we think,though i wouldnt expect u to take my word for it, vlachs always called themselves romanians since the aurelian retreat.the first foreign document to state it comes from arround 16th century,the word vlach is the slavic form of wallach of germanic origin which means "latin speaking barbarian".the teritory on which romania is comprised nowdays was first united under mihai patrascu in arround 1600.the wlachs always had some concience of theyr nationality as there is a letter addressed to vlad the impaler (oh you foreigners fancy and take intrest only in him) from stefan cel mare (the great) in which he says there is no good in brothers killing one another,reffering to the war between moldova and wallachia.after noumerous rebelions,political complots,amd masonery crafting romanians managed to convince the great powers to give them permision to unite thus after the simultaneous election of alexandru ioan cuza in moldova and wallachia it was said that a bumper state was made betwen east and west. but to us it was much moore than that.oh another thing about your reluctance to include vlachs as a faction in your great game:there is a diploma of the knights saint jhon in 1255 in which they state there are at the border of transilvania 3 STRONG WALLACHIAN COUNTYES,they were to protect the hungaryan kingdom of potential wallacho-cuman attacks.the cumans and wallchians were colaborating it seems and the oldest noble house of wallachia "bassarab" was cuman.artificial national creation hear you! that's silly and u won't find anything like that in the whole world

 

[tarabostu]

the roma language is untraceble i wouldn't know what roma would come from to them but i do not care.i hope u will not dispatch me again as a nationalist,the line between that and a patriot is very thin.i think you reaserch too superficialy in the balkan matter,but it is the most spectacullar in the world.good luck and please consider my proposal.

 

[Cruger]

i hope u will not dispatch me again as a nationalist,the line between that and a patriot is very thin.i think you reaserch too superficialy in the balkan matter,but it is the most spectacullar in the world.good luck and please consider my proposal.

How the hell can you disaprove our Balkan research when we havn't added the Balkans yet?