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Infantry units with long cape
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Orion 说:
Just wait until your character is on sentry duty in a bitterly cold Sturgian forest, you'll wish you had a cape to wrap around you. I think they'd look better as part of civilian dress now that I think about it.
Gab-AG. 说:
Do we know that is actually caused by a physics engine or is it just cycling through a bunch of textures?
SirMairaki 说:
Pretty sure that's physics, I've watched other videos as well and the cape behaves differently everytime, in every context.
We know Bannerlord has this kind of cloth physics, I can't wait to see long capes, I strongly hope they are in the game.
Yes, I'm a cape fanatic. If it was socially acceptable, I'd wear a damn cape!
Here you go, another example that should show the physics:
Gab-AG. 说:
Ok yeah that does look pretty good.
Varrak 说:Or maybe Knights? For example, Acropora is a City under Western Empire rule. There would be "Acropora Knights" and those knights would wear those long capes as a special unit.
In history, there were Knights of Malta, where Knights wear long capes
As Orion said those were not for combat. And that second image is basically fantasy. I see it everywhere but it's basically just a LARP image. What does he even have around his forearm? Look at the size of his sword! Why is he basically wearing a loincloth? Etc etc
Capes and cloaks are for keeping the rain off your mail or keeping warm. In battle they don't protect or benefit you at all, so you'd take them off. Even in a cloak-obsessed culture like the picts or maori or the maasai in kenya, where most people would wear cloaks most of the time, they take them off for combat. Even modern people subconsciously take off their coats and even shirts in fights. In a brawl you don't want loose fabric anywhere near you.
More practically for the developers, having capes in combat situations where animations are moving quickly and everyones close together, clipping issues and cloth physics glitches will be inevitable. Having an entire unit with flowing capes is also a CPU nightmare. Unless you want everyone to have static or extremely low poly capes, it won't be feasible.
It's just not worth the risks. They're burdensome, get in the way, and can be grabbed or snag on things. There is no reason to wear one in combat whatsoever, even as a functional cold-weather garment. You're too dynamic and exposed while fighting for a cloak or cape to provide any meaningful insulation yet all of the drawbacks of having one are still there. They weren't stupid.MadVader 说:So, nobody wore a cape in medieval combat. Fascinating show of speculative knowledge.
What about archers?
Or commanders? At least the Roman ones did.
MadVader 说:
Again, not in combat. Here's a sculpture of a centurion holding a standard with his sword sheathed, and even then he's gathering up his cloak as if to put it away.
I have also never seen archers depicted with capes even in overdesigned fantasy.
Jacobhinds 说:MadVader 说:
Again, not in combat. Here's a sculpture of a centurion holding a standard with his sword sheathed, and even then he's gathering up his cloak as if to put it away.
I have also never seen archers depicted with capes even in overdesigned fantasy.
Uhm, Legolas, the rest of the Elven Archers, the Rohirrim Archers, the Dunedain rangers.
The Riders of Rohan wear capes, all of these into battle. Gandalf, the rest of the Fellowship in the first movie, the actors seem to move just fine in them, Bannerlord is only based of history, its not restricted to it.
The cloaks look cool, thats why its depicted in media and books and history, sculptures etc.
God knows i would hate to see them on even 1/4 of the troops but I don't see an issue for an elite empire troop, maybe even just for empire lords.
