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Ok so my friend was freaking out about the fact that he had 70 troops in the demo and that he attacked lords .. is this possible in the demo.. and I thought you needed to join a king to be able to attack lords and even then only the 1ce your in war with ofcourse.. :???:
I have full version and play alot and still don't even have 70 troops only like 40/50 lol  :!:
 
Solus 说:
and I thought you needed to join a king to be able to attack lords and even then only the 1ce your in war with ofcourse.. :???:

This is correct and I think its possible to join a faction so early if you do some quests for them and are lucky enough to be offered a position as mercenary captain. But 70 troops with lvl 7? I have strong doubts about that!
However, my memories about the demo are blurry and I'm not sure. Better let your friend provide some proof for his boasting :smile:


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Or he used cheats indeed.
 
But there is still a lvl limit and some cheats are dissabled .. or are you able to use mods in the trail .. that would explain alot lol  Although that would be kind of stupid then people could mod the demo in their adventages so you nolonger even need to lvl lol  :razz:
 
Ringwraith #5 说:
Nonsense, you can attack lords whenever you want to.
Winning, that's the tricky part.

Yes, and realizing later that your now bandit party is alone at war with every kingdom. My mistake in one save. XD
 
Wait a moment when I try attack a lord when I'm neutral it says I can't interfear with politics  :???:
 
let me clear this up a bit:

1. you can attack lords at any time, but you must have killed/stolen/burned their villages/villagers or caravans, I think just 1 burning of their village is enough to get them to hate you. However, it will only be that particular lord unless you have raided caravans and killed villagers in excess.

2. Not sure, but could it be possible that your friend used this trick:

TheMageLord 说:
I wanted to be able to command larger armies, so I peeked in the scripts.txt file and found the ones that set them. Even without the source, it's easily changed. I then realised with my larger army sizes, morale was horrible. So I changed that too. Heres the scripts and what you need to change. You'll have to open scripts.txt in the native folder, find the appropriate script, and change the right numbers.

First the size script:
game_get_party_companion_limit -1
12 2133 2 1224979098644774912 360287970189639680 2133 2 1224979098644774913 10 2170 3 1224979098644774914 1369094286720630785 1224979098644774912 2172 3 1224979098644774915 1224979098644774912 3 2107 2 1224979098644774914 3 2105 2 1224979098644774913 1224979098644774914 2105 2 1224979098644774913 1224979098644774915 520 3 1224979098644774916 1224979098644774912 7 2123 3 1224979098644774917 1224979098644774916 25 2105 2 1224979098644774913 1224979098644774917 2133 2 72057594037927936 1224979098644774913 2075 1 72057594037927936
The 3 red numbers are what you can easily change. The first (default 10) is the base party size. The second (default 3, or default 5 in 1.003) is the bonus per point of leadership. The third (default 25) is the amount of renown you need for an additional troop (so lower is more here). You can set these to whatever you like, I put 9999 in the first two and 1 in the third as a test and ended up with insane party size limits.

And the morale script:
get_player_party_morale_values -1
49 1650 2 1224979098644774912 648518346341351424 2133 2 1224979098644774913 0 6 3 1224979098644774914 0 1224979098644774912 1652 3 1224979098644774915 648518346341351424 1224979098644774914 4 0 1507 1 1224979098644774915 2105 2 1224979098644774913 3 5 0 1653 3 1224979098644774916 648518346341351424 1224979098644774914 2105 2 1224979098644774913 1224979098644774916 3 0 3 0 2133 2 144115188075856282 1224979098644774913 2170 3 1224979098644774917 1369094286720630785 360287970189639680 2122 3 144115188075856283 1224979098644774917 7 2133 2 1224979098644774918 144115188075856283 2106 2 1224979098644774918 144115188075856282 2105 2 1224979098644774918 50 2133 2 1224979098644774919 0 2133 2 144115188075856284 0 6 3 1224979098644774920 288230376151711778 288230376151711792 150 1 1224979098644774920 4 0 33 3 1224979098644774920 288230376151711778 288230376151711790 2105 2 1224979098644774919 1 3 0 527 3 1224979098644774921 1224979098644774920 1 2105 2 144115188075856284 1224979098644774921 3 0 2105 2 1224979098644774918 144115188075856284 4 0 31 2 1224979098644774919 0 2133 2 144115188075856285 30 2106 2 1224979098644774918 144115188075856285 5 0 2133 2 144115188075856285 0 3 0 2133 2 144115188075856286 0 4 0 32 2 144115188075856027 0 1 1 936748722493063280 2133 2 1224979098644774922 72057594037927936 2122 3 144115188075856286 144115188075856027 10 2108 2 144115188075856286 1224979098644774922 2112 3 144115188075856286 1 31 2106 2 1224979098644774918 144115188075856286 3 0 2112 3 1224979098644774918 0 100 2133 2 72057594037927936 1224979098644774918
Again, the two red numbers are what you can change. The 3 is the amount of morale that "hero" troops negate (not including you, as of 1.003). You can set this to 1 to make you and your companions only subtract 1 morale, or 0 for none at all. The second number (default 7) is how much morale leadership gives as a bonus. You can set this as whatever you want, I set mine at 30 so with 10 leadership I get a 300 morale bonus and can lead very large armies without horrible morale problems like the npcs. You could set it even higher.

I hope people find this as useful as I have, I've been having a ball running around with my big army without having to grind fights for morale.

Note: This does cause some minor oddities due to the way the rest of the game is set up. The size report screen doesn't show the new numbers for bonuses, but still displays the maximum correctly - otherwise the size change works perfectly. The morale bonus is a bit weird when you first start out (gives you a big recent events negative if you start with leadership, I guess its part of a script to give you a low morale starting? not sure). It also doesn't allow you to gain over 99 morale, so recent event morale will cap at 0 if you have a small party. Morale from bonuses and negatives also caps out at 99 before it applies recent event morale, so if you have a big negative there from retreating a bunch or something it can still cause low morale even if you have a huge surplus from leadership bonus - but since 0 seems to be the lowest recent event morale goes from just passing time you can now travel around without worry of morale grind. Funnily enough, leadership bonus CAN counteract the "no food" penalty, so you can run around with no food and still have happy troops with enough bonus there. I'm not sure if you lose troops or anything due to having no food or not, I always feed them anyway.

-edit - For those of you changing morale for 1.003, it still works but the script has changed. It is a bit shorter. The parts where you can edit the hero penalty and the leadership bonus are the same, though.

-edit2- Some people have been experiencing problems with this tweak, it may no longer work in 1.003. By all accounts it SHOULD work, but it doesn't seem to - maybe the party size checks have been moved into the engine or something? I can't find anywhere else that either morale or party size are being set, so I'm a bit puzzled. Feel free to give it a try still, but don't be too surprised if it doesn't work right.

-edit3- I tested and tested this, and it works just fine for me - I'm not sure what might be causing the problems for all the reports... I'll leave mine edited for a while to make sure it doesn't glitch up unexpectedly later, but so far in an hour or so of testing I can't find any problems. If you can't get it to work for you, check your numbers - I set my party size numbers to 50 (base size) 10 (leadership bonus) and 10 (renown per extra troop) for reference.

Link to other tweaks.

not sure if it works in the trial, but he could technically set it to be 50 men per leadership point, meaning he only needs 2 to be able to have 70
 
Prussian Iron 说:
let me clear this up a bit:

1. you can attack lords at any time, but you must have killed/stolen/burned their villages/villagers or caravans, I think just 1 burning of their village is enough to get them to hate you. However, it will only be that particular lord unless you have raided caravans and killed villagers in excess.
Wrong, you can attack lords at any time. :roll:
 
you cannot use some cheats in the demo. check here for the ones you can and cant use in trial/demo: http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Mount%26Blade/Cheats
 
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