Imperial State Question

[Lord Morboth]

Well, i started playing the mod and would like to first and foremost point out that its quality is top notch, few mods here can reach such a high standard , cheers to D'Sparil for that!! ^^

However, i would like to ask about the Imperial State's role in the current version of the mod... is it meant to be played?? Or is it there for another, unknown purpose??

To begin with, if i understood correctly, it is the Holy Swadian Empire the current ruler of the German lands, and thus the Imperial States' existence has no reason of being whatsover.

Gameplay wise the problem i've got is that I've asked every single Imperial Lord if they wanted a task to be done, but alas, i was answered only the typical "No, x, i don't need anything from you at this moment", and therefore i'm unable to rise through their ranks.

Any help on this would be greatly appreciated, and please, do forgive me if this issue was already brought forth by another member.

 

[DaveDaDude]

They are at odds over the land, thats the whole idea of Calradia, all these factions have a claim on the land and the idea is to fight for it.

Btw just rest a day or so and the lords should have missions come up for you. Its very bad luck none of them have given you one

 

[Lord Morboth]

Since D'Sparil mentioned them to be defeated (to the point of writing DEFEATED near their name in the description of the mod) i thought they wouldn't be in the mod, or if so, then they wouldn't be playable or something.

However, seeing that it's the other way around, that they are a playable faction, i am more than happy to play with them, as i love the German Empire .

 

[Galtran]

the Imperial State was never defeated, the ELLIS EMPIRE was.

the ubber and awesome Imperial State shalt never be defeated!

the Imperial State shares it origin with the Holy Swadian Empire.

"Imperial State
The Imperial State is one of the two former Ellisian provinces of Swadia. However, unlike their brothers from the Holy Swadian Empire, they are not interested in religion and dominance of the world in the name of some deity. They are extremely nationalistic, and if Calradia is to be conquered, it will be done in the name of the Kaiser, and repopulated by State subjects afterwards."


the defeated elllis empire:
"Ellis Empire:
The Ellis Empire used to be the most powerful nation, not only in Calradia, but in the whole known world. Their armies, professional, of massive size well trained and equipped, terrified their enemies. However, a series of inept, vain Emperors, caused their downfall. Nowadays the "Empire" compromises just its ancestral capital city Ellis, and the city of Lerna. But there is hope. The Lion Throne has sent the undefeated Brigade Of The Radiant Cross, in return for Ellis adoption of the Filaharn Faith. Ellis armies are now back on the fight for Calradia, and those who have seen the young Emperor in battle say that he cannot be defeated, for Filaharn fights by his side .
End of State: Defeat of the Imperial Legions against the Swadians. Emperor Nikephoros captured in battle and latter burned at the stake for Heresy."

 

[Lord Morboth]

Thanks Galtran for the clear explanation, it was just a misunderstading, i confused the Imperial State with the Ellis Empire (as both are mentioned as "The Empire") and therefore switched their places...

That explains how weird it sounded to me having an Emperor called "Nikephoros" ruling a German Empire...

Anyway, problem solved, thanks guys!! ^^

 

[Lord0bsidian]

neither of them are germany. germany didn't exist until the 19th century. rather, the imperial state and swadia represent brandenburg-prussia and the hapsburg HRE, respectively.

 

[Almalexia]

neither of them are germany. germany didn't exist until the 19th century. rather, the imperial state and swadia represent brandenburg-prussia and the hapsburg HRE, respectively.

Well, actually, the Holy Swadian Empire is based off the Holy Roman Empire. See how that makes sense? And the Imperial State is based off 18th-20th century Kaiser-led Germany. So two strikes there.

 

[Lord0bsidian]

neither of them are germany. germany didn't exist until the 19th century. rather, the imperial state and swadia represent brandenburg-prussia and the hapsburg HRE, respectively.

Well, actually, the Holy Swadian Empire is based off the Holy Roman Empire. See how that makes sense? And the Imperial State is based off 18th-20th century Kaiser-led Germany. So two strikes there.

pff.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Prussia

read up. brandenburg-prussia was the basis of imperial germany. EDIT: not saying there's not superficial similarities, but putting the german empire in the rennaissance is a bit anachronistic.

also, what do you think HRE stands for?

 

[Ararius]

Well, the mod isn't exactly a history text book. It's what the modder wants and we get to play his vision!

 

[xenos60]

Neither of them are German in my opinion. The imps are Austrian and the Swadians are Swiss.

 

[Le Capitan]

The Swiss used neither Landsknechts nor Doppelsoldners.

 

[1x1General1x1]

The Swiss used neither Landsknechts nor Doppelsoldners.

Exactly, the Swiss had world renown Pikemen, really really badass pikemen. Early on they were hired out as mercenaries.