I think there should be an "upgrade" option when purchasing

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No matter what you say about this being a "new" game, it isn't. It's a multiplayer update of the original M&B, it's even marketed as an expansion, not as a completely new game.

It's the same as if GTA4 came out without multiplayer, and they later sold a "multiplayer expansion" for full game price, it doesn't really make sense. For those who already bought M&B, we've already got the same single player campaign this includes, and I think a discount for this "expansion" would kinda be fair.

Put it this way, if you were offered a choice of warband or the original, would you ever buy the original? The answere is no, because this IS the original game, with extra features added, those who have the original already shouldn't have to pay for it again to get multiplayer.
 
those who have the original already shouldn't have to pay for it again to get multiplayer.
Do you have a ****ing clue how difficult it is to add multiplayer support to a game?  There are many other *****y threads like this to post in. I don't really see the need for this one. 

Goddamn if you want free games go to one of a million flash game sites.  They'll hook you up.
 
Is this daft demand still going on?

Do some people really think they should get the game for free?
It is a totally new product...And from what I hear I am sort of
glad that they kept it separate from vanilla M&B! :smile:
 
Drift 说:
and they later sold a "multiplayer expansion" for full game price, it doesn't really make sense. For those who already bought M&B, we've already got the same single player campaign this includes
1.  The game is 30 dollars.  That is hardly full game price.
2.  How is the campaign the same?  The world map was drastically reworked, an entire new faction added, dozens of new gameplay elements implemented, and tons of improvement were put it.

Regardless, this has topic has been made dozens of times.
 
Berserker Pride 说:
those who have the original already shouldn't have to pay for it again to get multiplayer.
Do you have a ****ing clue how difficult it is to add multiplayer support to a game?  There are many other *****y threads like this to post in. I don't really see the need for this one. 

Goddamn if you want free games go to one of a million flash game sites.  They'll hook you up.

my thoughts exactly.


If you think its the same game, don't buy it. Save yourself 30 bucks. I'll be happily playing warband in the meantime, and for the record, it is DEFINITELY worth the money
 
I guess it is a bit naughty if them in some ways however they have added a lot according some people. Just bare with it, the company is just starting. I can quite imagine that it can piss people off but look on the bright side at least it's getting better unlike some other game series...*cough*Obliv*cough*
 
Just gonna go through these responses

Berserker Pride 说:
Do you have a ****ing clue how difficult it is to add multiplayer support to a game?  There are many other *****y threads like this to post in. I don't really see the need for this one. 

Goddamn if you want free games go to one of a million flash game sites.  They'll hook you up.

My post wasn't *****y... however yours is, and I never said I wanted it for free

Havoc 说:
Also, the single player campaign is way different

no it isn't

Kurt Zibling 说:
Do some people really think they should get the game for free?
It is a totally new product...And from what I hear I am sort of
glad that they kept it separate from vanilla M&B! :smile:

Again, didn't ask for it for free, l2read, and it isn't a completely new product, it's completely new multiplayer, which you'll find out when you play it.

Amroth 说:
1.  The game is 30 dollars.  That is hardly full game price.
2.  How is the campaign the same?  The world map was drastically reworked, an entire new faction added, dozens of new gameplay elements implemented, and tons of improvement were put it.

$30 is full indie game price, or the price of a smaller commerical game, eg Serious Sam. Also combine this with the original, and your paying $60 for a game with multiplayer, that there is expensive full commercial game price, and what alot of us have to pay as we've bought the original. Changing a world map != full game price worthy, neither is adding a new faction, thats what we call an "expansion". All the large issues from the original game still exist.

I never said I wanted it for free, all I said was a cheaper price for those who already bought the single player campaign which this includes would be nice.
 
I don't understand people who want a discount on a discounted game. If the original was $60, would you be happy expansion is only $30? And with M&B you get two games for the price of one!  :mrgreen: (original+expansion)
I've only been able to play trial so far but I love how it works. I'll get my $30 version soon (I was about to buy a $9 localized variant but then understood how much time localizers will need to update patch to 105, they're stuck with 102 ATM).

Don't want it? Don't buy it! Want it? Buy it! Or wait for some shop to offer you a discounted version. Its as simple as that!
 
Drift 说:
No matter what you say about this being a "new" game, it isn't. It's a multiplayer update of the original M&B, it's even marketed as an expansion, not as a completely new game.

It's the same as if GTA4 came out without multiplayer, and they later sold a "multiplayer expansion" for full game price, it doesn't really make sense. For those who already bought M&B, we've already got the same single player campaign this includes, and I think a discount for this "expansion" would kinda be fair.

Put it this way, if you were offered a choice of warband or the original, would you ever buy the original? The answere is no, because this IS the original game, with extra features added, those who have the original already shouldn't have to pay for it again to get multiplayer.

You know you don't have to buy it, just feel lucky that the original M&B wasn't the two prices combined so you wouldn't have been forced to buying this with the original one :razz:.
 
Shinigami 说:
I don't understand people who want a discount on a discounted game. If the original was $60, would you be happy expansion is only $30? And with M&B you get two games for the price of one!  :mrgreen: (original+expansion)
I've only been able to play trial so far but I love how it works. I'll get my $30 version soon (I was about to buy a $9 localized variant but then understood how much time localizers will need to update patch to 105, they're stuck with 102 ATM).

Don't want it? Don't buy it! Want it? Buy it! Or wait for some shop to offer you a discounted version. Its as simple as that!

I don't think you get it.... the original game wasn't $60, it was 30, same as this, which is like a premium indie game price, I was happy to pay it, because M&B is a premium indie game. The expansion, is another $30. Why should an expansion, not a new game, an expansion to a game I already bought, cost the same as the original game? It even includes the original game. Why not let those who already own that, get like $10 off or something. Your not getting 2 games for the price of one, your getting the game you already bought plus an expansion for the price of one.
 
Swadius 说:
Drift 说:
No matter what you say about this being a "new" game, it isn't. It's a multiplayer update of the original M&B, it's even marketed as an expansion, not as a completely new game.

It's the same as if GTA4 came out without multiplayer, and they later sold a "multiplayer expansion" for full game price, it doesn't really make sense. For those who already bought M&B, we've already got the same single player campaign this includes, and I think a discount for this "expansion" would kinda be fair.

Put it this way, if you were offered a choice of warband or the original, would you ever buy the original? The answere is no, because this IS the original game, with extra features added, those who have the original already shouldn't have to pay for it again to get multiplayer.

You know you don't have to buy it, just feel lucky that the original M&B wasn't the two prices combined so you wouldn't have been forced to buying this with the original one :razz:.

lol, and there's a way to look at it. I'm not trying to start ana rgument here, I'm just saying, expansions have never costed the same price as a full game, especially not for those who originally own the first game.
 
And here I was hoping you were talking about an "upgrade" option for weapons and armour in multiplayer, allowing you to buy heavy, strong, thick, hardened, balanced, masterwork or tempered versions of your equipment. And I was all like: "Hey, that sounds awesome!"

But nooooo, you have to ***** & whine about the price of the game. Which, in its entirety, is still cheaper than many other games, and provides faaar more value for money.

 
Drift 说:
Shinigami 说:
I don't understand people who want a discount on a discounted game. If the original was $60, would you be happy expansion is only $30? And with M&B you get two games for the price of one!  :mrgreen: (original+expansion)
I've only been able to play trial so far but I love how it works. I'll get my $30 version soon (I was about to buy a $9 localized variant but then understood how much time localizers will need to update patch to 105, they're stuck with 102 ATM).

Don't want it? Don't buy it! Want it? Buy it! Or wait for some shop to offer you a discounted version. Its as simple as that!

I don't think you get it.... the original game wasn't $60, it was 30, same as this, which is like a premium indie game price, I was happy to pay it, because M&B is a premium indie game.

Published by Paradox, does that mean anything to you?

Drift 说:
Swadius 说:
Drift 说:
No matter what you say about this being a "new" game, it isn't. It's a multiplayer update of the original M&B, it's even marketed as an expansion, not as a completely new game.

It's the same as if GTA4 came out without multiplayer, and they later sold a "multiplayer expansion" for full game price, it doesn't really make sense. For those who already bought M&B, we've already got the same single player campaign this includes, and I think a discount for this "expansion" would kinda be fair.

Put it this way, if you were offered a choice of warband or the original, would you ever buy the original? The answere is no, because this IS the original game, with extra features added, those who have the original already shouldn't have to pay for it again to get multiplayer.

You know you don't have to buy it, just feel lucky that the original M&B wasn't the two prices combined so you wouldn't have been forced to buying this with the original one :razz:.

lol, and there's a way to look at it. I'm not trying to start ana rgument here, I'm just saying, expansions have never costed the same price as a full game, especially not for those who originally own the first game.

Why not? What makes you so sure there should be a "should" in how much things cost? Especially on a luzury item?
 
Drift 说:
Just gonna go through these responses



Havoc 说:
Also, the single player campaign is way different

no it isn't

Ah! I see what you did there, you omitted the last part of my post and slightly edited it.

For you see, my post said "Also, the single player campaign is way different/better, in my opinion anyway."
 
Havoc 说:
Drift 说:
Just gonna go through these responses



Havoc 说:
Also, the single player campaign is way different

no it isn't

Ah! I see what you did there, you omitted the last part of my post and slightly edited it.

For you see, my post said "Also, the single player campaign is way different/better, in my opinion anyway."

Um... thats because I don't disagree that it's better, it is slightly better, but it's also pretty much the same.

AWdeV 说:
And here I was hoping you were talking about an "upgrade" option for weapons and armour in multiplayer, allowing you to buy heavy, strong, thick, hardened, balanced, masterwork or tempered versions of your equipment. And I was all like: "Hey, that sounds awesome!"

But nooooo, you have to ***** & whine about the price of the game. Which, in its entirety, is still cheaper than many other games, and provides faaar more value for money.

Um yeah... it's cheaper then games like Battlefield Bad Company, Just Cause 2, Gears of War, Zelda, Call of Duty etc. Those games have million dollar budgets... I think the situation is a tad different. Further, alot of those games on Steam actually cost less then this, further still most indie games such as this cost less. I think the price is fair for this game IF you wanted the whole thing, but I've already played over half of what this is selling. The option to either just purchase the new content, or get a discount for already purchasing the original would be nice.

I don't see why you guys don't understand this simple concept, all expansions use it, except... this one apparently.

 
first off, stop double posting, secondly stop whining.

Warband offers a lot more as a stand alone expansion than most other games in the industry do. Lets take a look a big name company like Blizzard.

After blizzard's huge success in 2000 with the new release of "Diablo 2," they decided to follow up with an expansion which retailed at $50, the same price as the original game.
What did the expansion add? It added 1 new class, a few new items(which used the same pictures and artwork of the original game,) and added 1 new act, but failed to change the rest of the game. Effectively, it was exactly the same game. Diablo 2's expansion, lord of destruction, has been a heralded success and has sold millions (yes millions) of copies, and has never received the criticism that you are giving Taleworlds.

Bare in mind, you still had to own the original D2 in order to play the expansion. To people who bought the game when it came out, then bought the expansion, the total cost was between $100 to $120 (some places sold the game for $60 upon release.)

Taleworlds has redefined the entire map, added a complex political system, revamped the in-game economy, added a whole new faction, updated and improved an amazing number of items, added brand new items with new models and textures, completely added a new multiplayer system, and on top of all that, you don't need to own the original game in order to play it. So you are complaining that they are charging you less than what other companies offer for expansions that you must own the original game for, and yet taleworlds offers more with the game? Bare in mind, taleworlds never claimed that Warband was Mount & Blade 2, they marketed the game specifically as a stand-alone expansion, and they delivered exactly what they promised.



 
Swadius 说:
Drift 说:
Shinigami 说:
I don't understand people who want a discount on a discounted game. If the original was $60, would you be happy expansion is only $30? And with M&B you get two games for the price of one!  :mrgreen: (original+expansion)
I've only been able to play trial so far but I love how it works. I'll get my $30 version soon (I was about to buy a $9 localized variant but then understood how much time localizers will need to update patch to 105, they're stuck with 102 ATM).

Don't want it? Don't buy it! Want it? Buy it! Or wait for some shop to offer you a discounted version. Its as simple as that!

I don't think you get it.... the original game wasn't $60, it was 30, same as this, which is like a premium indie game price, I was happy to pay it, because M&B is a premium indie game.

Published by Paradox, does that mean anything to you?

Drift 说:
Swadius 说:
Drift 说:
No matter what you say about this being a "new" game, it isn't. It's a multiplayer update of the original M&B, it's even marketed as an expansion, not as a completely new game.

It's the same as if GTA4 came out without multiplayer, and they later sold a "multiplayer expansion" for full game price, it doesn't really make sense. For those who already bought M&B, we've already got the same single player campaign this includes, and I think a discount for this "expansion" would kinda be fair.

Put it this way, if you were offered a choice of warband or the original, would you ever buy the original? The answere is no, because this IS the original game, with extra features added, those who have the original already shouldn't have to pay for it again to get multiplayer.

You know you don't have to buy it, just feel lucky that the original M&B wasn't the two prices combined so you wouldn't have been forced to buying this with the original one :razz:.

lol, and there's a way to look at it. I'm not trying to start ana rgument here, I'm just saying, expansions have never costed the same price as a full game, especially not for those who originally own the first game.

Why not? What makes you so sure there should be a "should" in how much things cost? Especially on a luzury item?

huh.... the last decade or so of game purchases was a good start to my experience I suppose... Luxury item? Are we both talking about games here?  :???:
 
Drift 说:
lol, and there's a way to look at it. I'm not trying to start ana rgument here, I'm just saying, expansions have never costed the same price as a full game, especially not for those who originally own the first game.
How is this related to Warband? Did you mean to post in the off-topic forum?
 
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