I think my horse is broken

[slavetrader]

not sure if this is a bug or just a personal cock-up of somesort, so i post it here.

anyways, i picked a fight with swadian caravan, consisting mostly of men-at-arms and crossbowmen. i had a twohander so my tactic was the infamous ''circle-and-hack''. everything was going well. i had thinned their ranks nicely when the strange thing happened. all of a sudden my horse just stopped, like it had hit a tree, except there weren't any obstacles, no trees,bushes stones or other horses in fron of me. it didn't rear, just stopped. well i managed to survive with just a few blows to my horse (courser). i was back in business when it happened again. different part of the map, again, no obstacles, complete stop. this time the buggers managed to get my horse. and with 10 or so heavy mounted opponents, i naturally didn't have a shot (athletics 0)

so has this happened to others, or you think i just somehow managed to hit something?

 

[okiN]

I can't imagine what it could be if your horse didn't rear. Weird.

 

[Sir Prince]

heart failure.
your horse BROKE

 

[svart]

It happened to me a few times on 0.701, sometimes when i was attacked and sometimes out of the blue, my horse stopped and i couldn't even defend or attack :/

It haven't happened since though.
I have reasons to believe we have both used a defective sumpter horse, also named Bob.

 

[lancer63]

You sure it wasn't a white mule? they can be quite stuborn you know.

 

[Penguin]

Are you sure you remembered to fill the tank before battle?




Ok, that was the lamest joke ever, I'm already ashamed

 

[Handel]

This is a bug wit hthe terrain after 0.700. I reported it several times, but seems to me no one is going to believe it. Most players think they stop because of the hit or because of the obstacles or they just press the wrong buttons etc. But this happens in absolutely flat places including in the arena. You can move backwards and you can rotate your horse, but you cannot move ahead. After several seconds you can move again. I think shooting an arrow "unlocks" the stuck, but maybe it is just an coincidance.
Maybe now the other guys wich play with a horse will stop making silly remarks and will watch more carefully what happens when their horse stucks at some place.

 

[NikkTheTrick]

1. You might have hit a disappearing horse. It was already so transparent that you did not see it, but it was still there.

2. Your horse might have been hit with a polearm. Thrusts with polearms rear horses.

 

[Handel]

I read carefully what I wrote. Didn't find anything about "disappearing" or "rear". So I am not.

Well, maybe I am a bit harsh, but after getting to lvl 39 as a horse archer with more then 400 in archery and about 200 in polearm I know what a "rear" is.

 

[Narcissus]

Handel,

No one was attacking you ... relax.

NikkTheTrick was offering possible reasons that it was happening that you might not have thought of or realized.

Maybe now the other guys wich play with a horse will stop making silly remarks and will watch more carefully what happens when their horse stucks at some place.

Don't you think the same thought applies to others?

after getting to lvl 39 as a horse archer with more then 400 in archery and about 200 in polearm I know what a "rear" is.

You shouldn't assume that because you have hit level 39 as a horse archer, you cannot fail to notice things ... after assuming that a huge portion of the M&B community doesn't realize that their horses 'get stuck' for no apparent reason.

Narcissus

 

[Handel]

Handel,

No one was attacking you ... relax.

NikkTheTrick was offering possible reasons that it was happening that you might not have thought of or realized.

Maybe now the other guys wich play with a horse will stop making silly remarks and will watch more carefully what happens when their horse stucks at some place.

Don't you think the same thought applies to others?

after getting to lvl 39 as a horse archer with more then 400 in archery and about 200 in polearm I know what a "rear" is.

You shouldn't assume that because you have hit level 39 as a horse archer, you cannot fail to notice things ... after assuming that a huge portion of the M&B community doesn't realize that their horses 'get stuck' for no apparent reason.

Narcissus

I didn't care much at first; as the other probably don't care too. There are a lot of obstacles in the battlefield and at first I just thought it is due to some - bush, slope, just because was hit etc etc. But I started to got angry and started to care - and the next time I was stuck on the top of small hill with no bushes, stones, walls etc arround. Started to watch more carefully - and it really did happen when there are no known obstacles around. It did happen in the arena too. In the arena it did happen near the wall, but this wasn't because of the wall. I could freely rotate the horse and I could walk backside, but no matter to where I rotated the horse, I wasn't able to ride ahead. In the arena and in the other places.
Then I thought it may be due to some tecture clipping - but it is impossible, because I could move in any direction - just backwards.

And now this guy noticed this too (the silly remarks were about the comments on his post, not mine) and if you read the topic you will see this happened to another guy, who didn't really care and probably thought (as me in the beginning) it is due to some kind of horse mishandling.

And I thought it may be happening just to the horse archers, but the guy above was with 2h weapon...

I propose who is reading this thread to start looking more carefully to his horse movement and to report if they suffer the same problem. Will repeat again - no "known" obstacles of any kind before the horse, can be rotated and moved backwards, but not ahead, no matter how you rotate it.

 

[Narcissus]

I apologize, Handel ... as I didn't state my meaning clear enough.

I was, in no way, saying that you were incorrect or that it didn't happen as you said ... nor was I saying that it didn't happen to anyone else. If I made you assume thats what I was meaning, I do apologize. Maybe I misunderstood your meaning ... although if I did, I still do.

I would be willing to bet that there are many people, some of which I'm sure are on these forums, that play a mounted character in M&B. It appears that you are saying that they are, or should be, having the same problem as you do. I was trying to point out that regardless of whether some of them might think it was an obstacle in the way ... a large percentage would notice that it wasn't and report it.

Hence the meaning I was trying to make and failed miserably at: This appears to be a fairly isolated problem that few users are experiencing and that you shouldn't assume that others are experiencing it and not realizing what was really happening.

Again, if I misunderstood your meaning ... I apologize.

Narcissus

 

[Janus]

You know, now that I see this post, it seems I might have possibly run across the same issue a few times. As I made a turn near a wall (simultaneously holding back to slow and to one side to turn) in the arena, my horse suddenly stopped dead without rearing like they mentioned. I continued turning my horse and started tapping forward, and after about a second the horse started forward again. I just assumed it was a small glitch in the controls or I had run into a partly disappeared horse.
Might be 2 or 3 times I've had it happen, and I stick to the arena for hours sometimes so it doesn't seem like a terribly common problem. I still think it may be from something like an opponent's horse that has faded away.

 

[Handel]

Might be 2 or 3 times I've had it happen, and I stick to the arena for hours sometimes so it doesn't seem like a terribly common problem.

It is not a common problem - maybe it happens once per every 5-6 or even more (field) battles and it happened only twice in the arena (but not being a melee fighter, I don't fight much in the arena). I (and everyone else) can live with it. Actually I shouldn't notice it at all if I didn't got very angry when my horse become deadlocked and couple of almost dead filthy bandits chopped me and took away my already won battle.

But it still is a bug and looks like it appeared in 0.700 version (although not sure). If Armagan looks seriously at this maybe he will find the reason.

 

[Stonewall382]

I have to say, I'm a ~lvl 20 horse archer, and I don't know that I've ever noticed this (may have just not realized it, though).
When a horse is travelling slowly enough, it won't rear when it hits a wall or other obstacle.

 

[slavetrader]

hmm i suppose I could've hit an disappearing horse, but the thing is that when im facing knights and men-at-arms i first slay their horses, makes it that much easier. but again, it is possible that i hit a horse i couldn't see.

as for being hit by spear: IIRC the spear only stops the horse if it is thrust from forward, and i was basically circling them and keeping them in a nice pack behind me. so thats out of the question.

 

[Grislo]

When this happens you can (or I can, anyway) almost always fix it by dismounting and mounting again. You can be moving again already as you start mounting, so it's fairly quick, but obviously not the perfect solution if you're surrounded.