I hate you Xerina!

[LightKnight]

I played the tournament like 5 times. I am playing on max difficulty (everything set to max) and I am level 10 now. Each time I put a huge sum of 500 denars or more on myself thinking I would win. I got to the end fight 3 times and I thought I would be easy. Boy, I was wrong... the first time it was a ground fight and Xerina whacked me so fast I couldn't do nothing.

For the last two it was my fault; The guy was backwards on a horse and I didn't hit him in the back--he got off and whacked me so fast I could not get one shot off him. Then last night I had the easiest setup at the end! It was me vs. Xerina and all I had to do was a well aimed couch lance--it turns out I wasn't paying attention (thinking it was the 2nd to last fight) and get one shotted by Xerina and lose the tournament (final tier).

So, this really pisses me off. Maybe I am doing something wrong. I am putting points on my main character into charisma and basically spread evenly. Is it a good idea to get like all the hero characters and have like a doctor, engineer, merchant, tracker etc... while I put all my points in combat skills? I would do that if possible, is there a way to like reset everything?

Any suggestions are welcome, thanks for reading.

 

[FrisianDude]

Save before entering a tournament, be more careful and make sure you realize Xerina is female.

 

[Berpol]

So, this really pisses me off. Maybe I am doing something wrong. I am putting points on my main character into charisma and basically spread evenly. Is it a good idea to get like all the hero characters and have like a doctor, engineer, merchant, tracker etc... while I put all my points in combat skills? I would do that if possible, is there a way to like reset everything?

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[*]Xerina is female. As you confused her with a male you now gained her eternal enmity
[*]Xerina is level 35 or so with combat skills over 300, she is goes to tournaments for a living (and to beat up males)
[*]What you do depends on your choice.
[*]I usually specialize my own character at CHA (often with 9 STR and 12 AGI) but others like to specialize in combat.
[*]Most of the time I have one hero specialized in medical and one in scouting skills, depending on my own choices they also cover the rest of the INT skills. All other heroes are fighting machines but even those two get 9 STR and 12 AGI for better armor and horse.
[*]To undo choices you could export your character, edit that file and reimport it again. (character screen - statistics)
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[Gamemako]

You should also watch out for Dranton and that other guy with a name. They're all stronger than any king in the game. Against their melee, you shouldn't have too much to worry about; just be defensive. Against their ranged, you need to be really, really careful / dirty. If you have a 2-handed weapon, stay to their right so they can't hit you and drive them into a wall so you can smack them. At low levels, when you have ~44 health, you're going to get one-hit by Xerina's bow and Dranton's javelin more times than you'd think possible. Worst thing is hitting Dranton 7 times with a javelin before he one-hits you in return and you lose. Damn you, Dranton.

Really a shame that you can't recruit Xerina into your party, or better, as your warrior queen when you go to conquer all of Calradia for yourself.

//EDIT: Kradus is the other guy's name.

 

[Konrad von Richtmark]

If you want to optimize character development, focus on leader skills and combat skills. In a typical game, you'll have enough character companions to get all relevant party skills maxed out by them.

 

[Gamemako]

If you want to optimize character development, focus on leader skills and combat skills. In a typical game, you'll have enough character companions to get all relevant party skills maxed out by them.

Problem is, you need Leadership from CHA, Persuasion from INT, and Weapon Mastery from AGI, meaning that you end up putting your attribute points into everything, which really ruins things. If Persuasion were a CHA skill like it should be, it would be much easier to actually build a proper leader.

 

[Jubal]

But that's the trouble - most INT skills are party  skills so there's no pint in having them yourself, most notably tactics, which you gain no personal benefit from having, while most great generals were such because they were good tacticians. It's wierd.

 

[Gamemako]

But that's the trouble - most INT skills are party  skills so there's no pint in having them yourself, most notably tactics, which you gain no personal benefit from having, while most great generals were such because they were good tacticians. It's wierd.

Yes, but there were also some terrible tacticians whose generals managed incredible feats despite them (see: Hitler). It makes perfect sense to me. But I still think persuasion should be a CHA skill. It only makes sense. Seems like Persuasion was turned into an INT skill just to **** with the player.

 

[jasonxfri13th]

10 power strike and 10 ironflesh FTW!

 

[Ringwraith #5]

But that's the trouble - most INT skills are party  skills so there's no pint in having them yourself, most notably tactics, which you gain no personal benefit from having, while most great generals were such because they were good tacticians. It's wierd.

Yes, but there were also some terrible tacticians whose generals managed incredible feats despite them (see: Hitler). It makes perfect sense to me. But I still think persuasion should be a CHA skill. It only makes sense. Seems like Persuasion was turned into an INT skill just to **** with the player.

I'm kinda torn on that. On the one hand, yeah, persuasion should be charisma-based to make any sense (logical argument is the last thing that ever convinces anyone, it's all appeal to emotion). On the other hand, that'd mean I couldn't invest in it without sinking precious stat points into chr. Oh, the dilemma!

 

[killer-blead]

Posted by: FrisianDude 

Save before entering a tournament, be more careful and make sure you realize Xerina is female

Yes you have to realise its a girl, its very important 

 

[Gamemako]

10 power strike and 10 ironflesh FTW!

Given that you have to be level 60 to get that and your leadership skills maxed, I think it's a moot point. If you level that high, you deserve it.

 

[Ringwraith #5]

10 power strike and 10 ironflesh FTW!

Given that you have to be level 60 to get that and your leadership skills maxed, I think it's a moot point. If you level that high, you deserve it.

Nonsense, you need 30 Str for 10 PS and IF, which you can get at level 16 with the right starting build.

 

[Wheem]

I actually dislike Kradus more than I do Xerina. She seems pretty mean with a bow when she gets one, but I've been 1-shot/hit by Kradus more times than I have by anyone else.

Nonsense, you need 30 Str for 10 PS and IF, which you can get at level 16 with the right starting build.

He said, "Given that you have to be level 60 to get that and your leadership skills maxed, I think it's a moot point. If you level that high, you deserve it." I'm not sure if level 60 is perfectly accurate or not since I haven't counted out the highest possible starting Str + Cha, but I wouldn't personally want my Agility that low anyway.

 

[Gamemako]

10 power strike and 10 ironflesh FTW!

Given that you have to be level 60 to get that and your leadership skills maxed, I think it's a moot point. If you level that high, you deserve it.

Nonsense, you need 30 Str for 10 PS and IF, which you can get at level 16 with the right starting build.

No, I mean to have maxed weapon master, leadership, and trade as well (just for the hell of it), you need 30 str, 27 AGI, and 27 CHA. Given that you start with less than 30 of those points, you need to be about level 60 to get everything maxed. Now add in Persuasion as an INT skill and you need 27 more points, making it impossible to ever have a leader character who isn't incompetent in battle.

 

[Ringwraith #5]

I actually dislike Kradus more than I do Xerina. She seems pretty mean with a bow when she gets one, but I've been 1-shot/hit by Kradus more times than I have by anyone else.

Nonsense, you need 30 Str for 10 PS and IF, which you can get at level 16 with the right starting build.

He said, "Given that you have to be level 60 to get that and your leadership skills maxed, I think it's a moot point. If you level that high, you deserve it." I'm not sure if level 60 is perfectly accurate or not since I haven't counted out the highest possible starting Str + Cha, but I wouldn't personally want my Agility that low anyway.

Why would you max leadership skills in the first place? I don't invest in them at all, prisonder management is useless for anything but lords (so 1 point in it is enough) and party size increases quite dramatically with renown. I ended my last game with something like 5k renown and party size over two hundred.

 

[Berpol]

Why would you max leadership skills in the first place? I don't invest in them at all, prisonder management is useless for anything but lords (so 1 point in it is enough) and party size increases quite dramatically with renown. I ended my last game with something like 5k renown and party size over two hundred.

You forget that leadership also reduces troop upkeep by 5% per level and gives a bonus to troop morale. If you want to have many companions you might consider to increase trade so you don't have to pay a total of 500.000 denars for their equipment.
And if I remember correct you don't need prisoner management to capture a lord (but as I always have 2 ranks I'm not sure). Prisoner management is also a way to get more money, while I don't use it that often others do (especially if you mod the amount to be based on level).

 

[Ringwraith #5]

You forget that leadership also reduces troop upkeep by 5% per level and gives a bonus to troop morale. If you want to have many companions you might consider to increase trade so you don't have to pay a total of 500.000 denars for their equipment.
And if I remember correct you don't need prisoner management to capture a lord (but as I always have 2 ranks I'm not sure). Prisoner management is also a way to get more money, while I don't use it that often others do (especially if you mod the amount to be based on level).

Troop upkeep isn't much of a problem once you're raking in 10k+ per week from fiefs, and morale really hasn't been an issue for me either since I keep my army in a town and only take it out if I need to siege something. Trade, that's something Katrin takes care of for me.
The main problem I have with selling prisoners for money is that to get a decent amount you need to have a lot of them, which slows you down really bad.

 

[Elmetiacos]

Posted by: FrisianDude 

Save before entering a tournament, be more careful and make sure you realize Xerina is female

Yes you have to realise its a girl, its very important 

It might matter: if you have a male and a female opponent left and know one of them is Xerina, you might assume Xerina is "only a sword sister" and go for the wrong opponent.

 

[Oyclo]

I'm surprised no one modded a sword sister jello wrestling tournament yet.