I can’t wait to build my village into a castle

[FizCap]

I can’t wait, I hope taleworlds keeps their promises.

 

[[Rei]]

Low-tier shítpost my man.

 

[Bjorn The Broken]

I am pretty sure, Callum or someone else said this feature was removed from the game.

 

[ggttcc2]

TW already had a hard time making this game a proper RPG, let alone a village sim....

 

[The Great Grub]

lmfao

 

[Dio Khaan]

Sad.

 

[STcloz]

Poor man.

 

[Ananda_The_Destroyer]

Still too Soon™
I mean to make these posts, still hurts too bad, the castle building is long confirmed scrapped

 

[Philozoraptor]

TW already had a hard time making this game a proper RPG, let alone a village sim....

*have

 

[FizCap]

I am pretty sure, Callum or someone else said this feature was removed from the game.

That and 50 other features, I would’ve never bought this game if I knew they lied

 

[Bjorn The Broken]

I am also pretty sure that removal statement was before EA release, but I can't say anything about 50 other features though.

 

[black_bulldog]

It sucks this won't be in but I don't see this kind of stuff as anything malicious by TW. I think it's more like they realized they didn't have the time or ability to do it so they scrapped it, more a matter of incompetence than outright lying. Someone at TW should've known you under promise and over deliver not the other way around.

 

[Nalgasucia507]

It sucks this won't be in but I don't see this kind of stuff as anything malicious by TW. I think it's more like they realized they didn't have the time or ability to do it so they scrapped it, more a matter of incompetence than outright lying. Someone at TW should've known you under promise and over deliver not the other way around.

+1

 

[Terco_Viejo]

Dev Blog 06/09/18​

Can we still build castles in villages we own?
We had to drop that feature. At some point in development, fief management became too complex, with towns, castles and villages each having their own specific management screens. The ability to build castles in villages also gave rise to complex rules. For example, demolishing the castle in a village could potentially revert the village to another kingdom and we had to add complex logic to handle that. Overall, we felt that the design had become too bloated and unappealing.

The solution was changing the status of villages so that they would no longer be considered independent fiefs but were always attached to a castle or town. This removed the necessity to have a management screen for villages and simplified and streamlined the system. The aesthetics of our new villages is also much more pleasing. (source)

I would really love such an in-game option... but that's not going to happen officially. That said, the explanation for why this mechanic was scrapped is much more convincing than the one proposed for ambushes ? .

 

[Adrivan]

Nobody is talking about how useless castles are though.... it's just a place to store troops, that's all. Not that interesting to upgrade a village into a castle tbh.

 

[ArturMorhghain]

I would really love such an in-game option... but that's not going to happen officially. That said, the explanation for why this mechanic was scrapped is much more convincing than the one proposed for ambushes ? .

Mexxico further detailed how it worked (and the reason for it getting scrapped) not too long ago. Although I don’t quite recall which thread. I imagine it’d be possible within a mod since it won’t appear in vanilla.

 

[Terco_Viejo]

Nobody is talking about how useless castles are though.... it's just a place to store troops, that's all. Not that interesting to upgrade a village into a castle tbh.

There are already a few threads discussing this topic, which has been repeated since April 2020, as well as many others.

Mexxico further detailed how it worked (and the reason for it getting scrapped) not too long ago. Although I don’t quite recall which thread. I imagine it’d be possible within a mod since it won’t appear in vanilla.

It would be good to have a look at this explanation... if you (or anyone) remembers that link, please share it with us.
Edit: Is this?

 

[ArturMorhghain]

There are already a few threads discussing this topic, which has been repeated since April 2020, as well as many others.


It would be good to have a look at this explanation... if you (or anyone) remembers that link, please share it with us.
Edit: Is this?

Yep that looks to be the post I was thinking of - but a shame that it looks like it’s not even possible now.

 

[Bloc]

I would really love such an in-game option... but that's not going to happen officially. That said, the explanation for why this mechanic was scrapped is much more convincing than the one proposed for ambushes ? ? .

I think I didn't see the explanation of why they removed ambushes - can you link it to me? Since 50% of game features are scrapped, it's hard to track which one is really removed or which one hasn't implemented yet.

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I also want to break this down a bit - because it's sad but also it was a red flag we all didn't notice. It shows how TW thinks and acts.

Can we still build castles in villages we own?
We had to drop that feature.

That is okay. As long as we know it, it's fine. It's a game and you can't have it all. Even promised features can be scrapped with good excuses and reasons. And if this was too much to handle - we can say it's bad for gameplay but it's okay as long as it's not a "Surprise mf" moment when you launch the game.

At some point in development, fief management became too complex, with towns, castles and villages each having their own specific management screens.

Complex for who? Average Joe? Or in terms of development effort? I'm guessing the latter since no average IQ person would be confused by several more dropdowns.

The ability to build castles in villages also gave rise to complex rules. For example, demolishing the castle in a village could potentially revert the village to another kingdom and we had to add complex logic to handle that. Overall, we felt that the design had become too bloated and unappealing.

This example doesn't sound right. Why would demolishing a castle would revert the village to another kingdom? It's my land, it's my bricks and stones. Village kingdom should stay the same. If this was the outcome owner of this blog observed, then it's not related to design but related to bad code.

The solution was changing the status of villages so that they would no longer be considered independent fiefs but were always attached to a castle or town. This removed the necessity to have a management screen for villages and simplified and streamlined the system. The aesthetics of our new villages is also much more pleasing. (source)

This is a really weird solution, isn't it? In Warband, each village was an independent fief. You were able to own villages without owning castles. This had nothing to do with "village" upgrades or whatsoever. It was bringing granularized ownership feeling. You were guarding your own village, not your own region. You were dealing with the troubles of your villagers.

And they decided to remove that because of an unrelated promised feature? Weird..
It basically means "We messed up X, let's not work on it as a normal company and remove X and Y completely so we are out of the woods" - But why are you removing Y? So are they saying Warband was too complex because it had village fiefs in it? If this is their complexity definition, good luck with expecting more updates on this game.

 

[Magello]

I would really love such an in-game option... but that's not going to happen officially. That said, the explanation for why this mechanic was scrapped is much more convincing than the one proposed for ambushes ? .

It is posts like these which completely dash all hope I have of this game being anything more than it is right now. Too complex and streamlined are the worst phrases from them but the unappealing really hurts. Probably a feature on 90% of peoples top 5 and many have it as what they were most looking forward to.