Hundred Years War: 1428

[exhominem]

RELEASE: Pending...

This is a thread for an expansion to "Hundred Years War" I'm working on. Let's cut straight to the chase...

"HYW: 1428" Planned Features
- Based around Shakespeare's Henry VI, Mark Twain's "Joan of Arc" and other influences.
- Set in the last days of the Hundred Years War, in a France where war has lasted a century.
- Full campaign of quests following the rise of Joan of Arc. (in progress)
- New faction: Duchy of Burgundy (done, needs testing)
- Faction troop trees updated to 1428 era (done)
- Kitbashing(?):
---- motomataru's formations (done, needs testing)
---- custom commander (tricky code is proving difficult to implement)
---- Entrenchment (in progress)
------------> Ambushes and Preperation (not yet)
- Appropriate village scenes (not yet)
- New lords, ladies for 1428 era (in progress)
------ England, France (done)
------ Burgundy (in progress)
------ Appropriate relations / family trees (not yet)
- More recruitment options (not yet)
- Permanent war between France and England (done, needs testing)

Help I Need
Burgundian Lords
- Wikipedia is being unhelpful, so I need information on burgundian knights and such I can put into the game.

More Models
- It'd be nice if Joan of Arc could have special armor
- Newer, 1428 era armor would be nice

Quest Ideas

Feature Ideas

A Better Name?

New Splashscreens / Images

 

[Flamerol]

I can help you if you want,just gve me a couple of hours ,okay ?

 

[dochtorgajo]

Maybe not so much a help but if you want some burgundian lords you can give them names after members of Order of the golden fleece. This was established by Philip the Good of Burgundy in 1430 so most of these lords would be around two years earlier and should be big animals of contemporary Burgundy.

French wikipedia even have list of them:

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_chevaliers_de_l%27ordre_de_la_Toison_d%27or#Premier_chapitre_.28Lille.2C_1431.29

 

[Flamerol]

Philip the Good(Duke of Burgundy,Reign 10 September 1419–15 June 1467)+Bonne of ArtoisDuchess Consort of Burgundy,);
Children -Charles the Bold(born 1433),Antoine, bastard of Burgundy(born 1421)

 

[dochtorgajo]

Im glad the mod took direction towards last phase of war instead of its first years.

 

[Aethel]

I believe you mean Shakespeare's Henry V not VI

Edit: Never mind, I assumed it was Agincourt, so I thought Henry V. 

 

[Hynek z Děčína]

and will be firearms?

 

[Aethel]

and will be firearms?

They were around at this time? And were they in France, and used enough, to be in the mod?

We do have cannons (or we're working on the implementation) in the mod though. Only for sieges (some).
No animations though. It's so that it's done before the actual assault (therefore, no animation).

 

[Hynek z Děčína]

I was referring to handguns. As in mode Knights the last battle.

 

[Aethel]

I was referring to handguns. As in mode Knights the last battle.

I don't think they were used enough at this time to be implemented...

 

[Yigit]

For the purpose of historical accuracy certain items from original mod should not be in this version, like long hauberks, great helms, gothic armor, kite shields and other anachronistic stuff. 14th century stuff is OK here, though there were some developments in arms and armor by this date, like great bascinets, early forms of sallet helmet, etc. 
I haven't played the mod yet, so I'm talking based on screenshots.

 

[Yigit]

BTW, a great pictorial source for arms and armor of the period (in Czech)

http://wagner.bitva.cz/boj_odeni.html
http://wagner.bitva.cz/prilby.html
http://wagner.bitva.cz/stity.html
http://wagner.bitva.cz/zbrane.html

 

[dochtorgajo]

Really nice pistures. 

I can dig out exact discussion from armourarchive if someone doesnt believe but discussing french and burgundian ordonnance of 1450s Bob Reed mentioned that basic type of helmet issued to french gendarmes of ordonnances was great bascinet by this time. Dont know if it can be appliable to period 20 years earlier though.

 

[Yigit]

Really nice pistures. 

I can dig out exact discussion from armourarchive if someone doesnt believe but discussing french and burgundian ordonnance of 1450s Bob Reed mentioned that basic type of helmet issued to french gendarmes of ordonnances was great bascinet by this time. Dont know if it can be appliable to period 20 years earlier though.

From what I know, great bascinet was much more typical for this period.

 

[Yigit]

Also, check this

http://www.flickr.com/photos/roelipilami/sets/72157602432104851/

 

[Nu-Lz]

I think, the typical knight armour of that era was the "allwhite armour" and the typical helmets were bascinets and great bascinets. I would love to see them, but there are no models of that kind of armour.

Spoiler

I tried to create a similar one (I'm a beginner in modelling), but I failed at the skirt and the armour is to small for dejawolf's great bascinet.

Spoiler

Spoiler

 

[Hynek z Děčína]

Awesome! And what knights belt?

 

[Nu-Lz]

I failed at the skirt and the belt, so there's no belt.

 

[dochtorgajo]

Very nice models indeed. Im not sure if full such a suit would be commonplace though. Rather ideal.

As to the firearms:

1429
    At the English siege of Orléans, the French gunner Jean de Montesiler demonstrated remarkable marksmanship in targeting individual enemy targets. The accounts suggest that his individual firearm may have been a matchlock equipped couleuvrin.

So it quite fits in maybe as recruitable hero.

http://xenophongroup.com/montjoie/gp_wpns.htm#handguns

xenophogroup has some bacis info on 15th century handguns if youre interested. If you scroll down there also an article dedicated to Jean de Montesiler.

 

[rkid3]

Im glad the mod took direction towards last phase of war instead of its first years.

Nah the best part was the start, the French got completely done.