On a number of occasions I have seen 30 point relation to liege drops with no indication of a reason. I may just be travelling across country and it says "Relation with Donnchad drops from 75 to 45. Is this a bug? If it isn't it is a real dumb feature to have a huge irritation with no visible way of dealing with it.
Huge Random Relation Drop
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There are plenty of possible reasons to get that relation hit, check the log and make sure you didn't attack a priest next to them (if its a christian kingdom), a monastery...etc
qmax said:
1) post a link to download your savegame. In special if you can reproduce the event (a save one day earlier, as a example, that always has the drop 20 hours later)
2) post your rlg_log.txt
3) if you can't reproduce it on your save: take a screenshot of your notes->messages screen that shows the text of the drop
I made sure all the software was updated and started a new game and at the point where I got 3 lords I had this 30 point drop on all three lords within about 10 days. An unknown feature that causes bad things with no control by the player I call a bug. At this point my only recourse is to try and play without lords. I do not have the save games to do what you ask above.
Here is rlg_log.txt http://larrysails.weebly.com/uploads/5/6/7/6/56762615/rgl_log.txt
And another one. http://larrysails.weebly.com/uploads/5/6/7/6/56762615/mb52.jpg
Here is link to save game. http://larrysails.weebly.com/uploads/5/6/7/6/56762615/sg01.sav
Hi qmax,
We will take a look what possible circunstances might make you lose 30 points at once. There are, indeed, some random events that might make you lose relation and the relations tends to converge in 0, the better relation relation you have with a lord, the biggest amount each week you will lose until you reach 0 (and the opposite, from -100 to 0).
Another question, were they your rival? did they just defect from 1 faction to another?
We will take a look what possible circunstances might make you lose 30 points at once. There are, indeed, some random events that might make you lose relation and the relations tends to converge in 0, the better relation relation you have with a lord, the biggest amount each week you will lose until you reach 0 (and the opposite, from -100 to 0).
Another question, were they your rival? did they just defect from 1 faction to another?
It's to do with rebellions. When a rebellion event happens, you may lose relations with lords that they are in good relations with. Guessing they are trying to disrupt relations between you and your vassals. Took me me a while to figure it out. I think it also works with other factions vassals too. You can lower it with a tweak.
It could also be due to rivalries between lords. Sometimes when I've tried to resolve disputes betwen lords one lord says I favoured their rival(which I didn't) so I lost relations with them.
It could also be due to rivalries between lords. Sometimes when I've tried to resolve disputes betwen lords one lord says I favoured their rival(which I didn't) so I lost relations with them.
I will check out that rivalry idea but I just had it happen again with the latest download and this time there was no message in the log highlighting it at all. I will say again. Things that happen like this in the game that you cannot understand and are not evident are not features, they are bugs.
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I had exactly the same problem and fixed it with a tweak suggested by AfLIcTeD
I changed the "-30" to "-5", so now I only experience -5 random drops, which is fine and makes sense. The -30 hit is indeed way too much for no obvious reason. You can change it to anything including 0 if you want. It won't affect anything other than the relation drop. I haven't tried with positive values, but I think even this can work, if you want random relation boosts instead of drops
AfLIcTeD said:
I changed the "-30" to "-5", so now I only experience -5 random drops, which is fine and makes sense. The -30 hit is indeed way too much for no obvious reason. You can change it to anything including 0 if you want. It won't affect anything other than the relation drop. I haven't tried with positive values, but I think even this can work, if you want random relation boosts instead of drops
qmax said:
TW is not the DLC dev
You could try the above suggestion (knowing that voids future support as you would be playing non vanilla/mod), or wait for a official BWStudios reply.
You can help with the (suppose) issue investigation by providing updated logs and savegames.
Cheers
