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tdring

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I know there are most likely a million threads about this but what is a good way to start?
my weapons are not that great I can only lead 15 men and I dont have much money. This game has a lot of features I am yet to get the hang of.
What is a good way to start this game if I want to become a king?
 
If you want a good easy start, begin in Cantware. Join the Kings' army as a soldier. Make sure you have a few points in looting and inv. management too. With the amount of Dena pirates/franks roaming this area you will easily rack up a few easy levels and loot and you don't even have to do any fighting yourself. Sometimes they start off not at war with anyone but usually if they do it is against Suth Seaxe. After just a month or two of serving the king I had made over 20K in money just by selling off Frank loot. Depending on your luck I guess you may get more or less (depending on how soon they go to war and with how many) but still this is a very good starting area/way for new players (imo anyway).

Plus the chances of you getting some good armor/weapons/etc from looted Franks is also good - it will save you money on having to buy any of it. Once you have gotten some levels, some money, and some gear you can then leave the army and try something/someone else. All up to you.
 
Use tweakMB to raise bet amounts, then just win a tournament. I have set my maximum bet to 10,000, so I can get like 300,000 for winning a tournament
 
Pundragon said:
If you want a good easy start, begin in Cantware. Join the Kings' army as a soldier. Make sure you have a few points in looting and inv. management too. With the amount of Dena pirates/franks roaming this area you will easily rack up a few easy levels and loot and you don't even have to do any fighting yourself. Sometimes they start off not at war with anyone but usually if they do it is against Suth Seaxe. After just a month or two of serving the king I had made over 20K in money just by selling off Frank loot. Depending on your luck I guess you may get more or less (depending on how soon they go to war and with how many) but still this is a very good starting area/way for new players (imo anyway).

Plus the chances of you getting some good armor/weapons/etc from looted Franks is also good - it will save you money on having to buy any of it. Once you have gotten some levels, some money, and some gear you can then leave the army and try something/someone else. All up to you.

that king loves high casualties we lost half an army to 30 franks! ofc I cant do anything cause he gives me crappy gear
 
tdring said:
Pundragon said:
If you want a good easy start, begin in Cantware. Join the Kings' army as a soldier. Make sure you have a few points in looting and inv. management too. With the amount of Dena pirates/franks roaming this area you will easily rack up a few easy levels and loot and you don't even have to do any fighting yourself. Sometimes they start off not at war with anyone but usually if they do it is against Suth Seaxe. After just a month or two of serving the king I had made over 20K in money just by selling off Frank loot. Depending on your luck I guess you may get more or less (depending on how soon they go to war and with how many) but still this is a very good starting area/way for new players (imo anyway).

Plus the chances of you getting some good armor/weapons/etc from looted Franks is also good - it will save you money on having to buy any of it. Once you have gotten some levels, some money, and some gear you can then leave the army and try something/someone else. All up to you.

that king loves high casualties we lost half an army to 30 franks! ofc I cant do anything cause he gives me crappy gear

Yes, the Franks are some pretty hard hitting bandits. I forgot to mention that, so my fault. You may want to lower friendly damage to half or even lower when fighting against them. But as far as bandit parties go, you won't find any others that give the loot drops these guys do or the experience. If you have decent looting skill chances are you'll get some good loot drops after the battle. And in these drops you'll find some armor that protects pretty well-that and some weapons and shields. All useful stuff really.

In fact It's so easy to gain money this way I don't even loot anymore while serving as an enlisted man up there because it almost feels like cheating now.
 
thanks for the tips it helped a lot
does it matter the rank that I am?

my long term plan is to set up stuff in all of ireland and then expand my kingdom elseware
should I not fight in the first few battles?

thanks
 
Well I have never made my own kingdom, simply because that aspect of the game/mods has never appealed to me. So I really can't offer any advice about that. Actually I've spent most of my time as an enlisted man ever since Brytenwalda has incorporated Freelancer into the mod. Though I eventually end up becoming a lord to the kingdom I enlisted into.

From what I've heard from other people you will want at the very least a city and one to two castles-as well as a high right to rule before starting your own kingdom. I guess having other lords like you and a few companions would only improve the situation.

I have only played a little in and around Ireland so I'm not the best person to offer advice about the best path to take. I've spent almost all of my time around the Jutes, Saxons, and Britons. I typically find it just easier to enlist into a lords/kings army to begin with. Usually with a faction I plan on joining and one that won't get owned right away. I usually stick with this for a while until I reach the top tier of the troop tree (this is usually a elite infantry or in some factions cavalry) - thus allowing me to net some pretty decent gear, experience, etc. I also take breaks as a soldier, making good use of the whole 2 week vacation you can request from your commanding lord/king. I use this time to build up relations with the other lords-this is easy to do simply by recruiting a good many soldiers into your own army. Track down the lord in question (but only when he is outside a castle/town) and give him troops. Depending on how many and the quality of troops his disposition toward you will go up a little or a lot.

This is also a good time to find bards to teach you a few poems for when/if you decide to court/marry a lady. Also if you have a decent amount of money you may want to invest into buying land at a town your faction owns as well as maybe buying/building a business in said town. Also you should think about spending some money to increase your fame (via a bard in a town castle) or your honor (via a priest in a town castle).

Of course if you have the money you could also build yourself a lair and between breaks start stocking it with a few soldiers. But since you are a enlisted man your income will be limited to the wages you make as a soldier, any businesses/land you own, and by loot you obtain from battles.

Now, after I have fought a while, saved up some money, gotten on good terms with the faction king/lords, etc I then decide if I'm ready to join as a lord. If you have been increasing relations with lords/kings and using money to up your renown/honor here and there simple talk to your commander and choose to leave. Then simply find the King and become a vassal.

Here is the good news. If you have taken some time (as an enlisted soldier) to do all these things you should have decent renown, honor, money, relations, etc you should be in a good position to request a certain town/castle/etc after it is conquered. Meaning you can talk to your new found lords who you have befriended to support you in receiving said new town/castle/etc.

I'm not sure how this would play out in certain regions/factions on the map but during my service with Cantware I managed this fairly easy. After 90 or so days of serving I had plenty of money, some troops, friendships abound and once I joined I was given a meager village but as soon as the faction took over Seal-sy I requested/got support from the King/other lords and received my just due. From there is only got easier.

That was my experience anyway and please don't take this jumbled garb of text as a sure fire way to playing the game. Just play it the way you want, have fun doing it, and work out your own methods.

 
i found that starting as a Celtic christian Briton in either Gwynedd or Alt Clut is a good start. both places seem rather easy to avoid the initial bandits and reach villages that will let you recruit enough men to survive the first few battles.
in version 1.38 i travelled between Gwynedd and Pengwern, trading silver, minerals and stone from the first and salt from the later, i am not sure if it is as profitable in 1.39. in version 1.39 i found that Mumhan area had a great deal of bandits and other ruffians, that is relatively easy to beat. over a few months i made enough money of prisoners and loot to invest in 6 wineries and a leatherwork.
i had already decided to hook up with Glastenic, so i helped Ui Niall and Mumu as a mercenary while befriending other lords and becoming popular. i never had to raid villages and is loved by peasants all over the lands.

around day 200 i decided my economy were strong enough to maintain a siege army for some time and i went looking for an easy castle to take. as it would happen i found 3, one of them i had taken while in Ui Niall service and i took it for my self as it was located close to Din Cado and far from Ui Niall lands. for a short while i established my own kingdom and gave fiefs to a couple of my companions, making them lords. so that when i joined Glastenic we had 5 armies rather than 3... sadly this set up was lost when i loaded a savegame and forgot to re-do.
 
another question I have is what companions are lords?
I dont want to give fiefs to non lords and i want to at least have between 4-6 companion lords so when i do start my kingdom I dont just get killed my the sheer mass of lords some factions can have by the time I am ready to start my faction

last question
what do I need before I can make a lair because I dont know how to make one
instead of a lair could I just put troops I find in the wagon while i am enlisted?

also I have found hunting to be profitable in some areas because of high amounts of deer/goats/boar
 
tdring said:
another question I have is what companions are lords?
I dont want to give fiefs to non lords and i want to at least have between 4-6 companion lords so when i do start my kingdom I dont just get killed my the sheer mass of lords some factions can have by the time I am ready to start my faction

last question
what do I need before I can make a lair because I dont know how to make one
instead of a lair could I just put troops I find in the wagon while i am enlisted?

also I have found hunting to be profitable in some areas because of high amounts of deer/goats/boar

All you need for a lair is 20,000 coins. Once you have that much find a spot you would like to set up your lair and then select your camp on the world map. Should be an option to set up your lair there.

As far as companions go, I've no Idea. I have never used companions in any version of M&B nor any mods that sprung from it.
 
There is a sticky on this board for game tips, guides, and the like. I'm not sure if any of it is updated for the current version though... Maybe I'll write a guide or two based on my experiences.
 
I mean info on troops factions companions weapons towns etc
im also kind of overwelmed with all the new features
 
Well some of this information is readily available. Selecting reports from the world map allows you to view the troop trees of each culture. If you want info on weapons, etc, then select camp, select a action, enable cheats, back the first camp menu, select cheat menu, then find item. This allows you to browse all the items in the game

Not sure why you would need town information though. Other than whether they are pagan/christian there isn't much to tell really. Items in the market may vary and aside from how the scenes look, not sure what else atm.

All you need to know about factions is what culture they are. All factions share similar troop trees if they have the same culture. Irish are of course in Ireland. The Britons inhabit mostly central England, current day wales. Saxons are near South Seaxe. The jutes are in Cantware. Angle in East Engle, etc. Picts are way up north in scottland. Fortiu or some faction... A bit tired so not sure what else I'm missing or not making clear. :grin:
 
that cleared up a lot thank you
my bigest problem is that late in tournaments im having trouble winning when I get a spear/shield because they always run up and I cant do any damage
it is even more difficult when there are more then one opponents

I can do good with all the other tournament weapons except spear/shield

do you have any good info on hunting as well?

thanks for all the help in this thread and the other guides that are stickied
 
I've never tried hunting. I've never had a reason too. Money is easy to make and food plentiful. Tournament wise, if I get stuck with a spear or some weapon I just suck at I try to hold back and wait for an opponent or fallen team mate to drop a sword or axe or something. If that fails and there is only one opponent left I usually kick them into submission. Of course a good tactic that use to work was kick then spear thrust. But that was before 1.39. I've not tried tournaments in the current version. And as far as the help goes; NP.
 
ive held back to some sucess but whenever I end up with it being 2v2 both me and my ally have spears and my ally normally dies quickly and every time I kick I take damage to no affect

i find the spear to be better without a shield so sometimes I drop the shield and that seems to work in a 1v1 fight but not in a 2v1 fight

ill try your stratagy a little bit to see if it works well for me or not
 
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